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Old 02-18-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Depending on their upbringing they can have a certain cadence to their speech. This guy starts off in his own language, then goes into English. His way of speaking is fairly common in some First Nations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktLJ4EUn7w

Then you have Rosanna Deerchild, the host of the CBC Radio 1 show called Unreserved. She sounds like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS4ZfLtbuyI
That lady is almost indistinguishable from an average non-aboriginal anglophone Canadian.

The guy I would identify as aboriginal right away.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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One of the big differences I notice with Aboriginal Canadians is not necessarily in accent but in "tone". The tone of their speech is very soft, almost hushed in some cases. It's also often what I would describe as "monochord" (bad translation from French), in that it has very little raising compared to non-aboriginal speakers.


In many (but not all) regions the accent of aboriginal Canadians seems to reflect long contact with the French language, even if ironically most of them no longer speak French or have much contact with the language. And so for example some sounds in English such as "th" come out sounding like a "d", or the "h" at the start of words is slightly or totally suppressed. Both of which are things you hear from native French speakers when speaking in English. These speech patterns are common among aboriginals in regions quite far away from Quebec like the Prairies.
This soft monotone sound is also common among natives in the US.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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With Trump pushing protectionism, there are only a handful of developed countries which will have trade deals with the USA:

Canada

Australia

New Zealand

The UK

Conceivably-the Republic of Ireland could become eligible

In general, expect the USA to look south for trade, towards Latin America.
Nope. Trade relations with Mexico, our biggest LA trade partner have already been strained. Mexico currently imports lot of agriculture products from the US but is currently looking south so perhaps establish deals with Argentina and Brazil. Mexico fears that NAFTA may collapse.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Nope. Trade relations with Mexico, our biggest LA trade partner have already been strained. Mexico currently imports lot of agriculture products from the US but is currently looking south so perhaps establish deals with Argentina and Brazil. Mexico fears that NAFTA may collapse.
This is true with Canada as well. Canada has just signed on to two Free Trade agreements in just one year with dozens of countries. CETA covers Europe and TPP covers Pacific rim countries including Australia. Canada has all but guaranteed the UK that it will sign a free trade agreement with them post Brexit. For now, free trade with the UK is under CETA. Canada is looking to depend on the U.S less in terms of trade with the onset of the most protectionist U.S administration in memory. A lot of countries are rethinking their trade relationships with the U.S, given the toxic nature of the current administration when it comes to trade.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:59 PM
 
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The indigenous population in Canada is officially split up into three main groups:

First Nations: generally what most people used to refer to as "Indians" or "Natives"; Mohawks, Iroquois, Haida, Miqmaq, etc. are in this group.

Inuit: used to be referred to as "Eskimos".

Métis: were referred to pejoratively as "half-breeds" in the past; mixed European-aboriginal origins, often French, sometimes Scottish as you say; many of them were historically French speaking or spoke Michif (mix of French and an aboriginal language), but at this point have mostly transitioned to English.

Now, the First Nations group should not necessarily be seen as "purely" indigenous in origins. Most of the people in that group do have European origins as well like the Métis do, even if they're not considered as such. It's not a defining characteristic for some reason, as it is for the Métis. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can explain further.
Here the groupes are:

Torres Strait Islanders, who are quite distinct from mainland Aboriginals, and in many ways more closely related to people from Papua New Guinea or the Solomon Islands. The vast majority do, however, live on the mainland.

Tasmanian Aboriginals, who are also distinct from mainland Aboriginals because of the influence of time and geography.

(mainland) Aboriginals.

We don't have an equivalent for 'Metis'; its really about whether people identify as indigenous or not.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Here the groupes are:

Torres Strait Islanders, who are quite distinct from mainland Aboriginals, and in many ways more closely related to people from Papua New Guinea or the Solomon Islands. The vast majority do, however, live on the mainland.

Tasmanian Aboriginals, who are also distinct from mainland Aboriginals because of the influence of time and geography.

(mainland) Aboriginals.

We don't have an equivalent for 'Metis'; its really about whether people identify as indigenous or not.
And I do believe you do not have official legal "status" for some aboriginals like Canada does. That whole system is a bit of a quagmire here. Just under half the total indigenous population of Canada has "Indian Status", basically all them from the "First Nations" groups I mentioned above.


Inuit and Métis people do not have "status", though they do have some rights as indigenous peoples.


And in none of the cases is it really about bloodlines, though the "Indian Status" category does come somewhat close to that, even if it takes some bizarre (some would say immoral) twists and turns.


Indian Status: 5 more things you need to know - CBC News | Indigenous
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Do Canada and Australia have reservations for native people like the US does?
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Do Canada and Australia have reservations for native people like the US does?

Not sure about Australia but yes here in Canada we do. Some of the biggest are here in Manitoba.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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Do Canada and Australia have reservations for native people like the US does?
Yes Australia certainly does. It existed for such a long time as well.
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Old 02-19-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Actually Indigenous & Northern Affairs Canada has now been split into two departments.

Ottawa splits Indigenous Affairs into two departments - APTN NewsAPTN News
Good to know.
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