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Old 09-15-2018, 06:32 AM
 
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Good to hear. I’ve always loved that aspect of living in England- how effortless it was to integrate walking into daily life and leisure activities. Helped keep the weight in check from all the pub grub and hard ciders.

Other than the few you’ve mentioned, the US has not so much entire cities that are walkable, but instead pockets of neighborhoods within the cities. And some cities will have more of these than others, but they are not as widely distrubted through out this entire vast country, for various reasons.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:24 AM
 
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It really ain’t that much different..
I think it is
Other than the language we don't really share much.

I have noticed that the British overestimate their importance in the US. The reality is most Americans are pretty much indifferent to the UK.

Some British imagine we're almost the same thing or something. We really aren't.

Show me Miami, the Deep south, LA, California, Texas, etc. In the UK!

The only place in the US that might have some resemblance is New England, and that is stretching it by a lot!

I mean, take the phrase the Special relationship, they coined that phrase and use it repeatedly, yet here in the US most people have never heard of such thing, even some of our politicians who go there and call it the special friendship only to realize they messed up because they call it the special relationship.

The UK doesn't get that we are just not that much into them as they are into us.

We care about China, Putin, Iran, our neighbors Mexico and Canada. We don't really care about the Queen and the royal family and the British commonwealth, it is not something Americans even think about.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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I think it is
Other than the language we don't really share much.

I have noticed that the British overestimate their importance in the US. The reality is most Americans are pretty much indifferent to the UK.

Some British imagine we're almost the same thing or something. We really aren't.

Show me Miami, the Deep south, LA, California, Texas, etc. In the UK!

The only place in the US that might have some resemblance is New England, and that is stretching it by a lot!

I mean, take the phrase the Special relationship, they coined that phrase and use it repeatedly, yet here in the US most people have never heard of such thing, even some of our politicians who go there and call it the special friendship only to realize they messed up because they call it the special relationship.

The UK doesn't get that we are just not that much into them as they are into us.

We care about China, Putin, Iran, our neighbors Mexico and Canada. We don't really care about the Queen and the royal family and the British commonwealth, it is not something Americans even think about.
I would largely disagree with this.

Americans think of the UK way more than they would think of another country of that size. Plenty of Americans are aware of the special relationship and many people on the right didn’t like it when Obama returned the bust of Winston Churchill to the UK. Plenty of Americans- at least those with an education- know of our shared history and have visited the UK.

Americans go nuts for the Royal Family.

Americans may think of Iran and Mexico but thinking about a country does not mean liking it. Americans think of Cuba and North Korea, too.

In short, the UK and British people get a lot more attention and prestige than, say, France and Germany.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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I think it is
Other than the language we don't really share much.

I have noticed that the British overestimate their importance in the US. The reality is most Americans are pretty much indifferent to the UK.

Some British imagine we're almost the same thing or something. We really aren't.

Show me Miami, the Deep south, LA, California, Texas, etc. In the UK!

The only place in the US that might have some resemblance is New England, and that is stretching it by a lot!

I mean, take the phrase the Special relationship, they coined that phrase and use it repeatedly, yet here in the US most people have never heard of such thing, even some of our politicians who go there and call it the special friendship only to realize they messed up because they call it the special relationship.

The UK doesn't get that we are just not that much into them as they are into us.

We care about China, Putin, Iran, our neighbors Mexico and Canada. We don't really care about the Queen and the royal family and the British commonwealth, it is not something Americans even think about.
Yet Another Anti-British rant by you. You sound like Irene.

In terms of the UK there are lots of countries that we have very good relationships with including other anglosphere nations.

We take on the Austrialians in the Ashes, the All-Blacks in Rugby, France and Italy in the six nations rugby, we play football (soccer) in Europe and host numerous global events. Indeed the only time when there is any real US/Europe sporting passion is in relation to the Ryder Cup Golf, which will be taking place near Paris shortly.

Culturally we retain strong links with a host of countries and the world is not just the US nor does it reveolve entirely around the US.

In terms of a 'special relationship' that was coined by Sir Winston Churchill after WW2, however whether it exists today can be debated, although most people in the UK have more important things to worry about than what Donald Trump or the current US political administration think of us, indeed they don't seem to like any traditional US Allies and seem to prefer despotic nations instead.

I like America and Americans generally but I do like other countries and people as well, and they are also important to us.

As for not having Miami, the Deep south, LA, California, Texas, etc, we are a small country compared to the US so are not going to have everything the US has, although we are with in easy reach of equally good places.

As well as having many beautiful locations in the UK, trains from London St Pancras International Station travel directly to Calais, Lille,, Brussels, Paris, Disneyland Paris, Amsterdam, Rotterdam and the South of France including Lyon, Marseille or Avignon and also connect to destinations in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany, with an easy change in either Paris, Lille or Brussels. Whilst future direct services are planned in relation to Bordeaux, Frankfurt and Geneva. There are also a host of cheap air flights and ferry crossings.

Eurostar - Destinations

European City Breaks | Weekend Breaks to Europe | Eurostar

Next Bordeaux, then Frankfurt and Geneva – the eurostar train direct from London - The Telegraph

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Old 09-15-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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No offense, but the UK can be very depressing and run down looking.



Outside of London (which seems to be the epicenter of the country) and the quaint villages across the UK (Canterbury, Oxford etc.), most UK cities can be very gloomy, with that post-industrial look and the dark rainy weather.


Basically picture Buffalo NY with tons of Pakistanis and Indians and extremely gloomy weather.


Seattle weather in Buffalo 24/7, 12 months a year.



I much rather prefer the American city, as long as it's not a suburban hellhole.
What absolute rot, Irene.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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I would largely disagree with this.

Americans think of the UK way more than they would think of another country of that size. Plenty of Americans are aware of the special relationship and many people on the right didn’t like it when Obama returned the bust of Winston Churchill to the UK. Plenty of Americans- at least those with an education- know of our shared history and have visited the UK.

Americans go nuts for the Royal Family.

Americans may think of Iran and Mexico but thinking about a country does not mean liking it. Americans think of Cuba and North Korea, too.

In short, the UK and British people get a lot more attention and prestige than, say, France and Germany.
I am not sure I agree 100% with you.

Americans have appreciation for their heritage, we value our family origins, we are a nation of immigrants, so beside the US we also love our old countries.

That means plenty of love for Ireland in Boston, Germany in the Midwest, Italy in the North east, Mexico in the South west, African cultures in the south, Asian cultures in Hawaii and California.

I mean we are a big melting pot.

I do not know where you get this idea that the UK is very important to the everyday American or that you a special place in our minds that no other country has, honestly, the Uk is not a topic of conversation for the average American.

I guarantee you many Americans probably would go to Italy, France, Spain, Germany whatever in Europe before going to the UK.

It does not mean we hate the UK, but contrary to what the British, especially the English believe, we are not exactly crazy about you or feel like we are the same either.

we have special relationships all over the planet and we are a world power with connections all over the globe.

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Old 09-15-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Yet Another Anti-British rant by you. You sound like Irene.

In terms of the UK there are lots of countries that we have very good relationships with including other anglosphere nations.

We take on the Austrialians in the Ashes, the All-Blacks in Rugby, France and Italy in the six nations rugby, we play football (soccer) in Europe and host numerous global events. Indeed the only time when there is any real US/Europe sporting passion is in relation to the Ryder Cup Golf, which will be taking place near Paris shortly.

Culturally we retain strong links with a host of countries and the world is not just the US nor does it reveolve entirely around the US.

In terms of a 'special relationship' that was coined by Sir Winston Churchill after WW2, however whether it exists today can be debated, although most people in the UK have more important things to worry about than what Donald Trump or the current US political administration think of us, indeed they don't seem to like any traditional US Allies and seem to prefer despotic nations instead.

I like America and Americans generally but I do like other countries and people as well, and they are also important to us.

As for not having Miami, the Deep south, LA, California, Texas, etc, we are a small country compared to the US so are not going to have everything the US has, although we are with in easy reach of equally good places.

As well as having many beautiful locations in the UK, trains from London St Pancras International Station travel directly to Calais, Lille,, Brussels, Paris, Disneyland Paris, Amsterdam, Rotterdam and the South of France including Lyon, Marseille or Avignon and also connect to destinations in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany, with an easy change in either Paris, Lille or Brussels. Whilst future direct services are planned in relation to Bordeaux, Frankfurt and Geneva. There are also a host of cheap air flights and ferry crossings.

Eurostar - Destinations

European City Breaks | Weekend Breaks to Europe | Eurostar

Next Bordeaux, then Frankfurt and Geneva – the eurostar train direct from London - The Telegraph
I am not exactly sure who Milley is, neither I understand why you are calling me that name.

I am not saying the UK is ugly, or that it doesnt have nice places.

I am just saying the UK is not as important to the everyday American as a lot of British seem to think it is.

Yeah, you colonized our 13 original states on the eastern seaboard, and France colonized all of the midwest and the Spanish colonized the West, and Russians colonized Alaska. We get that, but we are different from you, we do not dislike you, but you are not special in our hearts either, we mostly feel neutral towards you it's what I am trying to say.

I am sure some American somewhere loves the UK, but it's not a common thing, we have heritages and ancestries and our focus when it comes to places outside the US, tends to be those places where our ancestors came from, we speak English, we get it, but that does not mean we are British 2.0, nor it means the UK is very relevant in our lives.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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I am not sure I agree 100% with you.

Americans have appreciation for their heritage, we value our family origins, we are a nation of immigrants, so beside the US we also love our old countries.

That means plenty of love for Ireland in Boston, Germany in the Midwest, Italy in the North east, Mexico in the South west, African cultures in the south, Asian cultures in Hawaii and California.

I mean we are a big melting pot.

I do not know where you get this idea that the UK is very important to the everyday American.
The Uk is not a topic of conversation for the average American.

I guarantee you many Americans probably would go to Italy, France, Spain, Germany whatever in Europe before going to the UK.

It does not mean we hate the UK, but contrary to what the British, especially the English believe, we are not exactly UK centric or UK crazy, we are pretty self centered and we have special relationships all over the planet and we are a world power with connections all over the globe.

My neighbor is a Pinoy American, what kind of appreciation could she have for the UK? None. I am Cherokee, Swedish and German American... what kind of kinship could I feel with the UK? None.
I can realiable inform you that the world does not revolve around the US and most people in the UK are usually interested in what is happening closer to home as well as in sport which we don't play a lot of with the US.

If anyone seems to have an over-inflated sense of self worth is you and not the British.

Most Brits don't give such things a second thought, indeed we make more visits to European countries via the train, plane or ferries than Americans do.

We also have Special Relationships with countries across the world, indeed the country next door to the US has the Queen as it's Head of State, and we have strong historical ties with Commonwealth and many neighbouring European countries.

Special relationship (international relations) - Wikipedia

We have helped the US in the past with the exception of the Vietnam War, which we refuised to become fully involved in and which put a strain on relation under Lyndon Johnson, and we continue to have good relations with the US and many other western countries.

In terms of your kinship to the UK, I really don't care.

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Old 09-15-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The U.S. was a British colony as we all know. However, the Dutch, Spanish, and French also were here, so we have many western influences from the beginning. Traditional America is primarily British. Our language, traditions, architecture, etc are mostly British. Deep down we are largely Anglophiles with a rebellious twist. For the most part the UK is our closest ally, and cousin, and we think of them in a very good light.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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I can realiable inform you that the world does not revolve around the US and most people in the UK are usually interested in what is happening closer to home as well as in sport which we don't play a lot of with the US.

If anyone seems to have an over-inflated sense of self worth is you and not the British.

Most Brits don't give such things a second thought, indeed we make more visits to European countries via the train, plane or ferries than Americans do.
Actually I differ

i have met tons of British, especially English who seem to think the US is an extension of England, or England across the ocean.

i also met plenty of disillusioned British who come to America and are often shocked when they realize how different America is from anything in the UK.

When the vice-president of our last administration went to France and said, America and France share a special relationship, the British press went crazy, much to the amusement of the American press and the White House because they just did't understand why the British press and its political figures were so mad. Later we learned it was because he said Special Relationship. (it seems the British think it's an exclusive thing) it is not.

The average American doesn't really see the UK as mommie, nor we think you are interchangeable with us.

We don't even understand your humor, we often just have stereotypes of you as most Amricans have never really been to Europe. (We have a huge country to visit)

I am just being honest. (And I am sure a lot of Americans agree with me), your media and political figures talk about us non-stop, but on this side of the pond (As you say), we truly don't really think that much about you.
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