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But he's not black, he's a whatever the name they have for the likes of him.
The official Venezuelan is a criollo, so the rest are off the target no matter if majority.
Talking crap about blacks is a commonality in the continent.
Just some mumble jumbo for foreigners. People that spoke African language in Cuba, like the secret societies that spoke ñañigo, etc, are gone...just like so many things in Cuba.
Not necessarily true. That all depends. In Latin America people use terms like negro and blanco to describe an appearance in the same family. The darkest member may be refered to as negro and the lightest as blanco. It is a comparative descrption of their skin color without a racial connotation....
In Cuba they use many non despective words for such descriptions, "negro", "negrón", "bembón"...but the word that blacks don't like is "negrito", they hate that word because it implies an in-house slave.
To answer the question...it's difficult to answer. Panama, a country that is quite black, has its share of blacks in positions of wealth and power, especially (maybe exclusively) in Panama City. However, their exists a prediliction to deny one's African roots, preferring to be called "moreno," "índio," and a host of other roundabout terms. So, in that sense, blacks aren't treated equally there because "black" isn't valued, despite its presence. Then you have somewhere like Cuba or Colombia, where the blacks admit more readily their heritage. However, they are usually the poorest and most afflicted in the country. The question is difficult to address...
If I had to choose, however, I would say Cuba or Colombia. The blacks there admit their heritage, and while they are worse-off on average, in the case of Colombia, their conditions are bettering with the obvious help of the government.
As far as this spouting off about the definition of "black" and how it changes from place to place (sometimes within the very country), there is a popular phrase here in Brazil that roughly translates to:
The police knows who's black, even if you don't.
I've heard similar phrases in the US, Panama, and Costa Rica. One can fool themselves about "blackness," but no one else is.
In Cuba, people that admit their black heritage are those that have a very obvious black heritage. Say, a "mulata-blanca" considered a "light mulatta" in Havana will push to the white condition in, say, Maya, Santiago de Cuba.
And again, a mulatto is not considered a black, does not behave like black and generally sides with whites, very light mulattoes are rabidly anti-black. They remind me of those movies in which there are robots that want to be more human to humans themselves. I guess it's human condition..."la fe del converso", "the faith of the converse".
When it comes to women..a lot of whitening, many very-very light mulattas have "bad hair" so they conk it, use all types of rather smelly creams.... There was some sort of cream in Cuba, came from Russia or Africa, who knows, whose effects vanished with rain...so there appeared a saying..."la lluvia aumenta la pasión"...being "pasión! curly black hair that comes from "pasas" (raisins).
And just speaking of Maya, in Santiago de Cuba, there was a race war some 90 years ago in which mulattoes killed 20.000 to 50.000 blacks, they were hanged.
There are no Cuban blacks, they are Cubans.
For latins, "blacks" live in LC, Overtown, etc.
Funny. Cubans blacks will be shocked to hear you say that. Why do Cuban blacks prefer NYC, with its almost non existent Cuban population, over Miami, where Cubans are the largest single group, and quite powerful at that?
They are SINGING? Now how is that different from Black American Muslims chanting in Arabic in a mosque?
Those Cubans would be no more able to converse among Yorubas than would the Black American Muslim be able to chat with Arabs in Arabic.
FYI only 15% of the slaves brought to Cuba originated from the Bight of Benin, and not all of them were Yoruba. So we aren't talking about some Yoruba Cuban group. We are talking about people who have retained the use of Yoruba in their religious practices AS INDEED PEOPLE IN TRINIDAD & TOBAGO HAVE!
And neither these Cubans nor the Trinidadians have any ability to use Yoruba outside of the context of the specific religious rituals.
African linguistic influences in the Caribbean in the daily speech patterns of the populations can be found in the creoles of the French, English and Dutch speaking Caribbean, and in the survival of African derived words throughout the Caribbean. And in the tones, intonations, and accents which can be heard throughout the Caribbean, even out of the mouths of people with scant ties to Africa. However in no part of the Caribbean can one claim that African languages are in daily use. NOT EVEN Haiti, which is easily the most "African" of the creole societies in the Caribbean.
I keep on wondering why some people cannot imagine Africans in the contexts of conducting business, running their communities, raising families, or just having a little gossip. It might surprise some but Africans do other things, than sing, dance, and worship. If one isn't able to converse in an African language in conducting business, governing the community, raising families, or gossiping then one doesn't speak that language. Very few Cubans have that ability.
In Cuba, people that admit their black heritage are those that have a very obvious black heritage. Say, a "mulata-blanca" considered a "light mulatta" in Havana will push to the white condition in, say, Maya, Santiago de Cuba.
And again, a mulatto is not considered a black, does not behave like black and generally sides with whites, very light mulattoes are rabidly anti-black. They remind me of those movies in which there are robots that want to be more human to humans themselves. I guess it's human condition..."la fe del converso", "the faith of the converse".
When it comes to women..a lot of whitening, many very-very light mulattas have "bad hair" so they conk it, use all types of rather smelly creams.... There was some sort of cream in Cuba, came from Russia or Africa, who knows, whose effects vanished with rain...so there appeared a saying..."la lluvia aumenta la pasión"...being "pasión! curly black hair that comes from "pasas" (raisins).
And just speaking of Maya, in Santiago de Cuba, there was a race war some 90 years ago in which mulattoes killed 20.000 to 50.000 blacks, they were hanged.
And all that you describes a society where black people are debased and so those, afraid that they might be classified with blacks, become quite hostile and racist towards that group. Its a familiar chapter throughout the Americas, even in the "one drop" USA where some old money "high yellas" freak out if a kid of theirs marries a dark person with "bad hair".
Stop lying. The slaughter of the blacks in 1912 was at the hands of WHITES. Indeed not only blacks were killed but also many mulattos. You ought to know that, because mulattos had more access to education the people of color who were the leaders often came from that group.
Just some mumble jumbo for foreigners. People that spoke African language in Cuba, like the secret societies that spoke ñañigo, etc, are gone...just like so many things in Cuba.
This isn't mumbo jumbo. This is a ritualistic Cubanized version of Yoruba where the words have SPECIFIC meanings. The issue isn't that African languages are never used. They are within specific contexts. Many who use them might not have a specific notion of the meanings of each word. The use of these ritualistic languages might also be exaggerated.
But only you, with your contempt for all things that Cuban blacks do, will reduce it to mumbo jumbo, which is basically you saying that they babble like babies with no coherence or meaning.
I wonder what Misere is babbling about. Replace the salsa with soca and that looked like any yard in a ghetto part of Georgetown Guyana. The girl in the yellow top danced like so many Guyanese girls. I deliberately pick what was, until the recent entry of Brazilian miners, just about the least Latin American influenced society in the English speaking Caribbean.
Most interestingly where is the "unique" Afro Latin look? The people there looked more "African" than your average AA, more akin to that of many people from Haiti or the English speaking Caribbean and Suriname. Indeed they could well be Suriname Maroons.
So what's his issue?
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