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If you regard calling African Americans and Indians as Anglos, then isn't it just as ridiculous to call Amerindian and Black people from Latin America "Hispanic" or "Latino"? They aren't Spaniards or Roman/have ancestries in the Romance language speaking peoples.
. You can't use the behaviour and settlement patterns of Haitians in the US as a yardstick for what Haitians are actually like as a whole.
The Haitians connection to Cuba and the DR is because they found work in those islands. But in both places they were treated as scum. In fact migrants from the ANGLOPHONE Caribbean were treated BETTER in both places. A fact that Dominicans happily scream when others claim that their disdain for Haitians is based on race.
Note that Haiti is in CARICOM, while the DR is in Central American Common Market (CACM). Why isn't Haiti in the CACM, if they see themselves as a Latin American country?
So why don't Haitians live among Dominicans in NYC and not among Jamaicans and Guyanese and Trinidadians? People generally live among those who they feel most comfortable with.
Obviously Haitians don't feel comfortable among Hispanics, and decided that of all of the people who they had nothing in common with, at least they shared a black immigrant experience with blacks from the Anglophone Caribbean. Much as is the case with Nigerians.
Haitians in NYC are no more connected to Hispanics than they are to other Afro Caribbean people.
I no more buy the fact that Haitians are Hispanic, than Nigerians are Anglo Saxon. In fact Nigerians speak English and can communicate freely with the English.
I am also not aware that Dominicans in NYC embrace Haitians as fellow people from Hispaniola. In fact I do not even see evidence that Dominicans embrace a "Caribbean" identity.
The same applies to Miami where Haitians are LESS likely to live among Hispanics than are even BLACK AMERICANS! So obviously some thing is happening here that isn't reduced to some "accident".
If you regard calling African Americans and Indians as Anglos, then isn't it just as ridiculous to call Amerindian and Black people from Latin America "Hispanic" or "Latino"? They aren't Spaniards or Roman/have ancestries in the Romance language speaking peoples.
I personally think that the whole notion is ridiculous. I suggest that you take it up with those who claim that Haitians are cultural indistinct from those countries with a Spanish/Portuguese colonial heritage.
Haiti is a Caribbean country with an Afro French creole cultural heritage.
Since I was born in Puerto Rico, my opinion on the matter is a latino is someone who was born in or has ancestry in any Spanish, Portuguese, and French speaking country and territory in the Americas south of the US border. A Hispanic is the same definition as above, but take out the French element. Then again, these are just European terms in an attempt to classify and put people different from them into a neat little box. I have nothing in common with a South American or Central American except language and a common ancestral route.
Hispanic, Latino, etc. are stupid, outdated, and misinformed terms made by outsiders, kinda like how post-colonial African borders were haphazardly drawn in a linguistic sense. These words just reinforce an Us vs. Them mindset in the Anglo-American
What will Americans call a Spanish Speaking person from Equatorial Guinea if he immigrates to US? Can he qualify as a Latino? African American? Spanish African?
What will Americans call a Spanish Speaking person from Equatorial Guinea if he immigrates to US? Can he qualify as a Latino? African American? Spanish African?
He will be called an African. The same as how a Nigerian will not be called Anglo Saxon.
What will Americans call a Spanish Speaking person from Equatorial Guinea if he immigrates to US? Can he qualify as a Latino? African American? Spanish African?
Why is it only Americans can be so profoundly confused by these matters?
Noone uses the term latino south of the border. They call themselves Americans which is Americanos.
Latinos is not a continent. Only a label invented by the U.S. media, and we all know the U.S. media is far from reality and accuracy.
Anglo-Americans have this obsession with classifying people in groups. The U.S. media is fundamentally racist, even if they don't realize it.
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