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View Poll Results: Which countries are Latino?
Spanish speaking countries 5 6.25%
Spanish speaking countries in the Americas 18 22.50%
Spanish speaking countries and Brazil in the Americas 22 27.50%
Mexico and everything South 6 7.50%
All Latin-based countries (includes Haiti and French Guiana) 28 35.00%
Everything except the West Indies (explain what that means) 1 1.25%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-05-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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I don't know why you insist on bringing up social phenomena (social phenomena that you are clearly unfamiliar with and don't know how to properly interpret, or just completely made up out of thin air) as evidence against a linguistic label.

The term Latin American captures people who share more than a language, but the Spanish/Portuguese colonial heritage which leads to a certain level of cultural overlap. Haiti is NOT part of this world. Especially as Haiti left the plantation based "colonial" world at least a century before the rest of the Caribbean did.

It is NEVER merely a linguistic term.

Haiti has NO more in common with Cuba than it does with Jamaica. Cuba has no more in common with Haiti than it does with Jamaica. Given that all three islands share a common heritage of sugar, slavery, and the plantation system, there are certain areas of cultural overlap, and many more differences, given their radically different history.. BUT EACH island has more in common with the other two than any have with countries like Chile or Mexico!

THIS is more relevant than the fact that some Haitians speak standard European derived French with a Caribbean accent, and others speak the more African influenced creole.


Just now you will announce that Haitians have more in common with people from Quebec because they speak a Romance language.

This is the height of stupidity unless you consider Jamaicans to be GERMANIC because they speak a German derived language. Are Jamaicans Germanic? NO! They happen to speak English because of their colonial history, despite drastic demographic and cultural difference. DITTO with Haiti and its French language.
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Old 07-05-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Exactly! This is why Haitians moving to the USA do not live in Latino neighborhoods. If for no other reason, at least they share the black immigrant experience with blacks from the Anglo Caribbean, as well as West African immigrants (Nigerians especially) who are also to be found in these neighborhoods.
Hmmm, in Chicago's South Side, Haitians and Mexicans share the same neighborhoods. This is the case when you get closer to the Indiana border. Many of them also frequent Mexican establishments especially restaurants.
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:55 AM
 
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What do people from non-Latin speaking countries in the Caribbean Sea call their self?
Just Jamaicans, Bahamians etc.?
Not Caribs, Antilleans, Island Americans or American Islanders?

"Central or Middle Americans" should only be used for the people on the mainland between the U.S. and Colombia imo.
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Old 07-06-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Latino to me just means Hispanics. ppl from spanish speaking countries in central and south america.
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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But really, who cares?
Just say that you don't care about what other people call themselves because you feel you know better.
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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We tend to use the term "Caribbean" when we aren't including those from outside of the Anglophone Caribbean, including Haitians, when we want to be PC, but NEVER Dominicans or Puerto Ricans.

It is therefore appropriate to use the term Anglo phone (or English speaking) Caribbean, as we are but a mere 15% of the Caribbean population (using a definition which includes the islands, the Bahamas, and the Guyanas, but excluding places like Venezuela). We have this bad habit of excluding the remaining 85%.
Honestly, I don't think we are including or excluding anyone when use the term Caribbean.

It's just that no one says Anglo-Caribbean, but just Caribbean. Now with the term West Indian, it's a different story though.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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What do people from non-Latin speaking countries in the Caribbean Sea call their self?
Just Jamaicans, Bahamians etc.?
Not Caribs, Antilleans, Island Americans or American Islanders?

"Central or Middle Americans" should only be used for the people on the mainland between the U.S. and Colombia imo.
Latin-speaking countries?

No country in America speaks Latin or has it as their official language as far I know.

Languages derived from Latin are called Romance languages.
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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Latin-speaking countries?

No country in America speaks Latin or has it as their official language as far I know.

Languages derived from Latin are called Romance languages.
I meant non-Latin countries... anyway do you have the answer to my question?
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Old 07-06-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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I meant non-Latin countries... anyway do you have the answer to my question?
Whatever they call themselves, they are simply Americans.
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Latino refers to people from Latin American ancestry living in the U.S.

If the same person lived in Mexico, for example, he would be Latin American.
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