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Old 04-19-2021, 01:29 AM
 
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[b][u]Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) people are proven by both historically and genetically to be East Asian, what do you expect them to be????
that's why you are too thirsty to require your people's in ur country to look like East Asian ?? ..with your posts make people's believe don't be stupid dude
nah .. if Thais is genetically close to Vietnamese why is Vietnamese not in the same group as thais? In fact Vietnamese in the same group as the Chinese while Thais are in the same group as Indonesian, Cambodian, Myanmar = Race Sounth East Asian Mainland ?
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:36 AM
 
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that's why you are too thirsty to require your people's in ur country to look like East Asian ?? ..with your posts make people's believe don't be stupid dude
nah .. if Thais is genetically close to Vietnamese why is Vietnamese not in the same group as thais? In fact Vietnamese in the same group as the Chinese while Thais are in the same group as Indonesian, Cambodian, Myanmar = Race Sounth East Asian Mainland ?
Who is the one that is grouping those?? You??

Who are "you" anyway? Why people have to trust "your statements or personal your opinions"?

Show us proof okay? Where are scientific and historical proof to back up your claim??? Please learn to make constructive argument based on proofs (Because other people aren't going to care about "your personal opinion").

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...(and they are absolutely much more trustworthy than someone like "you")














You seriously have mental problems and having extremely racist and hateful mentality, you need to learn to respect and accepting the real historical and scientific facts okay? Stop being racist and accept the proven "facts of reality" okay?

It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level. Southern Chineses is in group too(and Taiwanese to some extent).

Korean, Japanese and Northern Chinese are closely related.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.

You need to accept these true facts and live with it okay? I know you are a racist and hateful Indonesian person and you hated Malay and Khmer/Cambodian so much, but there is nothing you can do to change the truth of "you are them and they are you".

What is wrong about being related to the Malay and Khmer/Cambodian anyway??? They are beautiful people in their own way.

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Old 04-19-2021, 05:59 AM
 
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You are almost everywhere and and who will believe? Thai is close to Vietnamese lol research genetic Vietnamese close to Chinese than others . you should be proud to be yourself i see thais are proud of southeast asian blood it's not like you, you attract people rather believe thais look like East Asian with cherry picking and put thai chinese vidio and say they are pure thais even though i've been to Bangkok and I know the situation there even the people there are not much different from the people's in Indonesia
don't are you thais? or are you filipinos ? between the two .. because I almost found a forum where always made a lot of comments especially genetic, east asian looks, phenotype, mixed blood and always underestimated Cambodian, Indonesian and Malaysian

city data is a great forum and it is not blocked in my country. there are many forums that are blocked in my country but I am grateful to be able to share about my country here even though my English is still far away.

but to be honest I actually don't like people making threads to compare their people's people with people's from other countries including yourself too obsessed
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:00 AM
 
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ou still don't understand and don't understand the graph or genetic
like I explained if Thais similiar genetic or race with Chinese why not in the same group with "Chinese & Vietnamese "

Thais is genetically not close to Vietnamese ... Vietnamese is close to Chinese
Filipinos is close to Taiwanese Aborigine ,Eastern Indonesia and a population in Pacific Islander

Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:39 AM
 
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you should be proud to be yourself i see thais are proud of southeast asian blood it's not like you, you attract people rather believe thais look like East Asian
Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) people are proven by both historically and genetically to be East Asian, what do you expect them to be????

Please stop hating or racist and just accept the scientific and historical facts, okay?


Even the 100% pure blood Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) tribes who lives in the remotely isolated areas in the mountains still physically look completely East Asian.















Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) people who lives in most areas of Thailand and Laos today are proven to still be genetically very similar to the Thai/Ta/Dai(Tai-kadai) people who lives in the isolated mountains in Southern China. They are still exactly the same people, same race, look the same.

Ethnic map of Thailand (70% of Thailand population today are Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) ethnic).


Ethnic map of the Tai-kadai race.


Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) race are genetically and historically proven to be an East Asian race similar to the people in Southern China and Taiwan(to some extent).

Northern Thailand(people mostly looks East Asian, similar to the Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) tribes in China)






Eastern Thailand(people mostly looks East Asian, similar to the Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) tribes in China)






Central Thailand(people mostly looks East Asian, similar to the Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai) tribes in China)






All of these 3 regions of Northern+Eastern+Central have the combined population of around 85% of the total population of Thailand.

Southern regions of Thailand and the Cambodia borders are the only two places where you will find Southeast Asian face, but the population of these areas are low and only made up around 15% of Thailand's total population.
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:44 AM
 
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ou still don't understand and don't understand the graph or genetic
like I explained if Thais similiar genetic or race with Chinese why not in the same group with "Chinese & Vietnamese "

Thais is genetically not close to Vietnamese ... Vietnamese is close to Chinese
Filipinos is close to Taiwanese Aborigine ,Eastern Indonesia and a population in Pacific Islander

Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
Lol.....Is this came from "you" ? Who are you anyway? Why people have to trust "your statements or personal your opinions"?

Show us proof okay? Where are scientific and historical proof to back up your claim??? Please learn to make constructive argument based on proofs (Because other people aren't going to care about "your personal opinion").

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...(and they are absolutely much more trustworthy than someone like "you")














You seriously have mental problems and having extremely racist and hateful mentality, you need to learn to respect and accepting the real historical and scientific facts okay? Stop being racist and accept the proven "facts of reality" okay?

It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level. Southern Chineses is in group too(and Taiwanese to some extent).

Korean, Japanese and Northern Chinese are closely related.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.

You need to accept these true facts and live with it okay? I know you are a racist and hateful Indonesian person and you hated Malay and Khmer/Cambodian so much, but there is nothing you can do to change the truth of "you are them and they are you".

What is wrong about being related to the Malay and Khmer/Cambodian anyway??? They are beautiful people in their own way.
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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i've been to Bangkok and I know the situation there
Who care about your" personal opinion" ???

Every thing you been claiming up until now are all about "This is my opinion and I think it is the truth". You never show any real historical and scientific "facts" to prove your point.

Why should other people "trust your personal experience"?? Why ??

If you want to prove your claim, show us real historical and scientific facts okay?


I can also play the same card as you and claim that "I also have been to Indonesia and most people there look like Negritos".

Indonesian people


Are you going to believe in "my personal opinion"??
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Old 04-19-2021, 07:03 AM
 
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that's why you are too thirsty to require your people's in ur country to look like East Asian ??
Because the real historical fact if be go back to the beginning is Vietnamese were originated in Southeast Asia but Thai were originated in Northeast Asia.

Vietnamese was originally been living in Southeast Asia for at least over 4500 years now.

On another hand Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people didn't migrates into Sourtheast Asia until much later in the history, which is 700-1000 years ago(10 to 13 century) during the Mongol expansion of Asia.

There are a few different time period I need to point out here....

Source of Information.
https://www.timemaps.com/history/china-2500bc/

1. 4500 years ago

The Han-Chinese used to lives further north before they push South.

2. 3500 years ago

Han-Chinese was originated near Korea and Manchuria. The areas of Southern China wasn't originally belong to them.

3. 2200 years ago

They continue to expand Southward and invades Southern Yangtze lands from Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people as well other Baiyue people who also lived there too.

4. 2100 years ago

The Han dynasty finally reached South lands which belong to Baiyue people.

Thai/Tai ancestors chosen to abandon the land and starts to migrates Westward into the mountains/high land areas(refused to be occupied by the Han-Chinese).

Vietnamese ancestors chosen to continue to lives on their land(and accepted the occupation of the Han-Chinese) and this is when the Han-Chinese colonizer starts to "brainwash" the local Vietnamese to starts practice the Sinosphere(Confucianism) culture.

The occupation of Han-Chinese will continue non stop for another 1000 years until Vietnam was able to gain it's independence.

5. Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people continues to stayed in the mountainous areas of Southern China for another 1000 years and didn't migrates into Southeast Asia until around 10-13 century(700 to 1000 years ago).

Here is a video that uses map to explains about all of the historical events in Asia which included migration/rise of power/fall of power of all civilization in Asia started since 3000 BC (5000 years ago) up until 2019. (Everything I am talking about until now are exactly corresponds to this)


6. Thai/Tai people were always independent from the Han-Chinese and never been "directly occupied" by them. Everytime when the Northern Han invasion comes, Thai/Tai people will always abandon the land and move forward to find the next land(which finally caused them to end up here in Thailand today).

Vietnam and it's people were "directly occupied" as a province of the Han-Chinese empire for 1000 years. Vietnamese people always "insisted" to stay where they are on their own land and refuses to move away when the invasion forces comes(the Vietnamese still where they are today, even after 4500 years has passed). Vietnam was occupied by the Han dynasty and weren't able to gain it's independence until the collapse of the Tang dynasty.

So what is the conclusion do we have here??

[b]Basically any people you see in Vietnam today who may "look like Chinese" are basically the descendants of the Han-Chinese from 1000 years occupation of Vietnam.

They are technically Chinese-Vietnamese (Chinese ethnic whom were born in Vietnam), not the real/pure/original Vietnamese ethnic.
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Old 04-19-2021, 07:17 AM
 
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that's why you are too thirsty to require your people's in ur country to look like East Asian ?? ..with your posts make people's believe don't be stupid dude
nah ..
You need to be proud of your Javanese/Malay/Austronesian heritage from your ancestors okay? Please stop hating the Malay, they are the blood brother of an Indonesian like you.

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that's why you are too thirsty to require your people's in ur country to look like East Asian ??
And what is wrong with that? It is historically and scientifically proven multiple times already that Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai)people weren't originated in Southeast Asia. They originated in Northeast Asia around the Yangtze river and migrates into Sourtheast Asia in 10-13 century.(700-1000 years ago)

2500 years ago.


So you are saying that Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai)people should not be proud about the history of their ancestors?? Who are you anyway, and why should they listen to you?

Thai/Tai/Dai(Tai-kadai)people have the right to be proud of their history okay?? They were historically originated in East Asia, not Southeast Asia. They have the right to be proud of their history of East Asian origin, okay?

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Old 04-19-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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