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Old 01-26-2011, 02:06 AM
 
Location: leicester-england
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Swedes Ban Creationism from Schools—Including Christian Schools!
[SIZE=4]by Paul Taylor, AiG–U.K.
October 18, 2007
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A previous web article reported on a recent vote by the Parliamentary Assembly for the Council of Europe (PACoE) to approve a report that claimed creationism was a danger to human rights in Europe.1 While the PACoE vote does not have any legal status, it is assumed to have influence.
That influence perhaps has already been seen.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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The ban on teaching 'creation science' (I pause to laugh at those words) won't do any good.

Many people want to believe that we humans are more special than animals, and those people simply cannot accept the idea of evolution.

That's fine with me.

I would not be upset if my grandkids were taught about 'creation science' in school. At some point, they have to learn not to believe everything they hear.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: leicester-england
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I think europeans are fed up with the rant about what god did.

There is not a scap of evidence to support the existence of gods now or ever.
We also know that matter cannot be created or destroyed, it was always there in one form or another, thus, praying is Moderator cut: deleted

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Old 01-26-2011, 11:13 AM
 
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The ban on teaching 'creation science' (I pause to laugh at those words) won't do any good.

Many people want to believe that we humans are more special than animals, and those people simply cannot accept the idea of evolution.
I do object to my grand kids being taught fable based science, for the simple reason our schools are already a miserable failure on the world stage of education, and the time spent is counter productive. The United States ranks 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mediocre striving to reach the bottom, and teaching nonsense will only hasten the process. Our kids would fair much better if the time was spent outside playing, i.e. physical activity.

As for those "special people" that feel they are more special than animals, they are proof positive that we are just one of many species of animals. A species that has developed what no other species has achieved, stupidity and arrogance.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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There is not a scap of evidence to support the existence of gods now or ever.
We also know that matter cannot be created or destroyed
Sure there is plenty of evidence used to support 'creation acience". It is the same evidence used to support evolution.

However, the creationists just interpret the evidence differently.

Matter cannot be created or destroyed? Where have you been?

Look up at the sun and you can see lots of hydrogen atoms being combined to form helium. In the process, matter is destroyed, and that is where the sun gets its energy.

And what happens after all of the hydrogen atoms are converted into helium? You don't want to know.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: leicester-england
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I do object to my grand kids being taught fable based science, for the simple reason our schools are already a miserable failure on the world stage of education, and the time spent is counter productive. The United States ranks 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mediocre striving to reach the bottom, and teaching nonsense will only hasten the process. Our kids would fair much better if the time was spent outside playing, i.e. physical activity.

As for those "special people" that feel they are more special than animals, they are proof positive that we are just one of many species of animals. A species that has developed what no other species has achieved, stupidity and arrogance.
I agree, we are intelligent but not intelligent enough.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: leicester-england
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Sure there is plenty of evidence used to support 'creation acience". It is the same evidence used to support evolution.

However, the creationists just interpret the evidence differently.

Matter cannot be created or destroyed? Where have you been?

Look up at the sun and you can see lots of hydrogen atoms being combined to form helium. In the process, matter is destroyed, and that is where the sun gets its energy.

And what happens after all of the hydrogen atoms are converted into helium? You don't want to know.

SIR, helium is still matter. The first law of physics= matter cannot be created or destroyed.
Google it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Good for Sweden! Creationism is no better, no more truthful or more plausible than the Lochness Monster, Bigfoot, or the Chubacabra. It holds absolutely no scientific weight, will stop at nothing to lie for its cause, and dresses itself up like a transvestite in a scientific skirt and blouse to make itself seem credible.

Just because a lot of people believe in it doesn't mean it should be taught alongside evolution in a science class - which is what the law took care of. Science should be taught in a science class; not some garbage invented by a bunch of money-grubbing religious zealots on the other side of the pond.

If Creationism is allowed to be taught as an "alternative" theory, we might as well teach alchemy in chemistry class, astrology in astronomy class, and miasma to our medical school students. Hopefully America will follow suit!
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: leicester-england
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Good for Sweden! Creationism is no better, no more truthful or more plausible than the Lochness Monster, Bigfoot, or the Chubacabra. It holds absolutely no scientific weight, will stop at nothing to lie for its cause, and dresses itself up like a transvestite in a scientific skirt and blouse to make itself seem credible.

Just because a lot of people believe in it doesn't mean it should be taught alongside evolution in a science class - which is what the law took care of. Science should be taught in a science class; not some garbage invented by a bunch of money-grubbing religious zealots on the other side of the pond.

If Creationism is allowed to be taught as an "alternative" theory, we might as well teach alchemy in chemistry class, astrology in astronomy class, and miasma to our medical school students. Hopefully America will follow suit!
We have to blame the customers.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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GCSTroop has it right. Sweden did the right thing. It is up to parents to teach their children to watch out for charlatanry (I think I made up a word there). Schools shouldn't confuse children by giving 'alternative' explanations and implicitly giving them equal standing.
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