Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"Fornication" (ie. having sex): no qualms, so long as it is consensual, responsible, and all parties involved are humans who have reached the age of consent
Lying: morally justifiable in some situations (such as seeking to minimize harm), but even altruistic lies are not without consequence and should otherwise be avoided
Adultery: a ****ty thing to do to the person you are supposed to love and respect (this is, of course assuming, assuming the cheater does not have their spouse's permission)
Not quite... The original meaning is referring to prostitution and meant something along the lines of "in the hallway". Referring to having sex with a prostitute in the hallway. Today's meaning is referring to sex before marriage. Either way, you're saying that you don't have a problem with people engaging in either of those acts?
Fornication, adultery, and lying are simply English words, I wouldn't necessarily call them religious words, religion didn't invent them. And when did I ever imply that all atheists/agnostics think the same? I asked a question that was open to each one of you to answer individually, you seem to like to jump to a lot of conclusions.
Guilty as charged (about jumping to conclusions) and apologies for the leap ...sometimes I get jaded when these questions come up ('specially in my neck 'o the woods).
Fornication (defined as sex before marriage): no problem with the usual caveats others have adequately covered
Adultery: inadvisable if non-consensual
lying: totally depends on the circumstances
Not quite... The original meaning is referring to prostitution and meant something along the lines of "in the hallway". Referring to having sex with a prostitute in the hallway. Today's meaning is referring to sex before marriage. Either way, you're saying that you don't have a problem with people engaging in either of those acts?
I know you didn't ask me, but people are paid for physical actions every day. What makes sex any different?
People are paid millions of dollars to run a ball down a field that is paying someone for doing a physical task.
As long as all are consenting adults, go for it. And by consenting I mean consenting, not someone being controlled by a pimp, or sold into the sex trade. Also not in public hall ways, or other public places. Sex should be behind closed doors, IMHO.
For me it was learning about other religions, particularly Islam. They believed that their God existed, and I believed their God was false. But I soon realized that I had no way of knowing which God was real. If 1.3 billion Muslims could be wrong, why couldn't 2 billion Christians also be wrong?
Also, I learned that most Christians had a religion that was entirely different than mine, and yet they still called themselves Christian. Why would God let that happen?
The hypothesis that made the most sense (rationally) was this: God is completely imaginary. It explained everything. But I was too terrified to face that hypothesis. It took another 10 years before I finally accepted that God was imaginary.
I had the perfect response but GOD took it away from me ... Church made me stop believing .. seeing the people I know in the front row seats at church on Sunday morning in the back row seats at the club the nite before .... I believe in good and evil but no Deity controls them ....
Not quite... The original meaning is referring to prostitution and meant something along the lines of "in the hallway". Referring to having sex with a prostitute in the hallway. Today's meaning is referring to sex before marriage. Either way, you're saying that you don't have a problem with people engaging in either of those acts?
Nope, no problems. Sex is normal and healthy, and a great way to unwind after a long day. Prostitution... assuming we're talking about adults, I'm not inherently opposed to it, but my full position on that is rather lengthy.
I know you didn't ask me, but people are paid for physical actions every day. What makes sex any different?
People are paid millions of dollars to run a ball down a field that is paying someone for doing a physical task.
As long as all are consenting adults, go for it. And by consenting I mean consenting, not someone being controlled by a pimp, or sold into the sex trade. Also not in public hall ways, or other public places. Sex should be behind closed doors, IMHO.
So you feel that viewing and/or making pornographic material is inappropriate?
So you feel that viewing and/or making pornographic material is inappropriate?
Make and view it behind closed doors. Not at the mall, or on the street, or in the hall of your apartment building, or at the post office.
Again consenting adults. Children and people who are not consenting to see it are in the public.
Public = in the view of the general public. Public places such as the mall, or sidewalk, etc
Private = in your house, or rented facility. Not open to the general public.
What made you start to disbelieve God's existence? Or at least disbelieve that there was a God who cared about us individually?
I asked for very little from god ... and boy did I get it. I hoarded my chips and only cashed them in when people were suffering horribly, dying, etc., because I knew from simple observation that, whatever people claimed about god, he was parsimonious in helping people and "god helps those who help themselves".
So ... I let it pass when my Mom died from injuries received in a car accident ... she was 82 anyway, and didn't suffer. Too much. I let it pass when my oldest brother died at 67 from an inexplicable case of bone cancer despite being a nice guy who didn't smoke, chew or go with girls that do. Though it gave me pause. I let it pass when my wife at the time suffered increasingly baroque agonies, largely untreatable, and finally begged for the mercy of death. By that time, convinced that the god I'd been taught about was indifferent, absent or non-existent, I didn't have the heart to pray anymore. It was my wife, her "prayer warrior" aunt and mother, and their entire church that did that heavy lifting toward the end -- and all absolutely for naught, so I'm glad I didn't bother.
After she died I realized that a non-existent, absent or indifferent god were all one and the same for practical purposes, and divested myself of all investment in the notion. Best decision I ever made.
That was of course only an impetus or catalyst to action ... now that I have a clearer understanding of reality there is no element of anger or disappointment in my unbelief. Mostly just relief at the opportunity to deal in reality with little or no cognitive dissonance.
Anyone notice how this has gone from belief in god > to morals > to fornication > to prostitution > to porn.
It's simple CONSENTING ADULTS ONLY WHEN IT COMES TO SEX. And not in public.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
