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What if the truth is that the company owner employs 100 people, and he and they will live happily for the rest of their lives. But in truth he can build a computer to replace them all and let them and all their families die on the streets, decreasing the surplus population, creating a healthier ecological environment for his children, and allowing him to use part of his extra profit to build a stronger wall to protect him against those dying ex-employees in the streets outside his estate. But no, he decides to keep things as they are and keep them employed. Does that mean that he is living by a fantasy?
How is that Sci -fo - fum scenario demonstrating the Truth of anything, or even an analogy of any Truth? Explain, please.
I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that it is trying to foist on logic and science the accusation that it inevitably leads to the cold -blooded extermination of everyone other than the privileged few intellectual superiors. and only Godfaith -religion can stop people becoming pointy -eared robots. We can leave the "Darwinism = Euthanasia package (incorporating the Straw Vulcan) to another time.
But what about all the people needed to actually DO all the things that keep our world running? Such as bringing us our food from the earth, making our clothing, and building our shelters. Good luck finding a mass of atheists who would be willing to do that. Atheists can sit in their easy chairs at their "work"-places and continue to laugh at all these silly people.
Atheists do not work in your world? They do where I live.
What if the truth is that the company owner employs 100 people, and he and they will live happily for the rest of their lives. But in truth he can build a computer to replace them all and let them and all their families die on the streets, decreasing the surplus population, creating a healthier ecological environment for his children, and allowing him to use part of his extra profit to build a stronger wall to protect him against those dying ex-employees in the streets outside his estate. But no, he decides to keep things as they are and keep them employed. Does that mean that he is living by a fantasy?
What if that happened in a country that had unemployment insurance, welfare or even something called other employers? What if those workers were also his customers? What if you made sensible arguments?
But what about all the people needed to actually DO all the things that keep our world running? Such as bringing us our food from the earth, making our clothing, and building our shelters. Good luck finding a mass of atheists who would be willing to do that. Atheists can sit in their easy chairs at their "work"-places and continue to laugh at all these silly people.
Ever hear of China? They make goods for sale and are often available to buy in stores in your world of only religious people produce goods and sevices. Do you live in Iran?
Can you be sure that the wheat your bread is made from was not grown and harvested by an atheist?
It would make for a more practical thread if it was advice on how to beat an atheist at, say, ping-pong or maybe drag racing, something where definitive winners and losers may be identified. How would you beat an atheist in the 100 yard dash? Or at wrist wrestling, poker, pie eating contests, online games, political races and beauty pageants?
Atheists do not work in your world? They do where I live.
The ludicrous accusation that atheists do not work, but just sit at thei computers all day (I did my stint and I'm retired, so i don't count) has a flavour of despreration about it. It's the final stage of what we call "Blind lashing out".
The ludicrous accusation that atheists do not work, but just sit at thei computers all day (I did my stint and I'm retired, so i don't count) has a flavour of despreration about it. It's the final stage of what we call "Blind lashing out".
When did you last hear of a soup kitchen run by atheists?
Or of any "good" thing done by atheists?
People rarely organize around things they don't believe in. You may as well ask why non-philatelists never arrange conferences to discuss their lack of interest in stamps.
But pretty much every welfare state - say, the Scandinavian ones - are run on a 100% secular basis.
I'm still not sure why the belief in imaginary things is so bad. Shouldn't the person's actions be the final factor?
There are many in this subforum who have false views of many things. You might even call it IMAGINARY. Big time. But I don't let their false views bother me or make me think any less of them. I do however try to help them understand where their thinking might be in error. No good deed goes unpunished though.
When one is basing their lives on "imaginary things", the whole foundation of that life is built on weak and shifting sands, to coin an old phrase.
It's not really a problem when a child believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, unicorns, Superman, or Captain Marvel. But when that same person continues to believe in those things as an adult, then their decision making has to be questioned.
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