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Okay, I get it. You and people like you would have been the only "guilt-free" people existing back in that time.
The problem is, the religious fundamentalists are making the exact same claim. Since those crimes obviously go against their religious teachings.
I and people like me would have pretended to be religious in order not to be ostracized, punished, or even killed by, say, burning alive.
As for the fundies’ actions being inconsistent with their words, that’s standard operating procedure for them and, in the end, a vast majority of all religious adherents.
I and people like me would have pretended to be religious in order not to be ostracized, punished, or even killed by, say, burning alive.
As for the fundies’ actions being inconsistent with their words, that’s standard operating procedure for them and, in the end, a vast majority of all religious adherents.
I'm sorry. If you are trying to say that atheists are the only good people in the world, you would sound like a raving lunatic. You know that atheists are a minority.
I never said you claimed it was proof, rather I pointed out the fact that archeologists and anthropologists have a very bad habit of classifying any artifact they don't understand as a religious item.
What? In answer to my post you said...'That's not proof of religion'. Well I never said that it was! Anyway. Let's not become like Christians and start arguing amongst ourselves about whose right.
I'm sorry. If you are trying to say that atheists are the only good people in the world, you would sound like a raving lunatic. You know that atheists are a minority.
I wasn't "trying" to say anything. You know full well what I said, and your only response is to utterly misstate it.
I wasn't "trying" to say anything. You know full well what I said, and your only response is to utterly misstate it.
Even if you were saying that "religious adherents" were a small group, then there is still no correlation between those people (who I am not a member of) and those responsible for all the atrocities in the world. Atheists and moderates have done their fair share.
Even if you were saying that "religious adherents" were a small group, then there is still no correlation between those people (who I am not a member of) and those responsible for all the atrocities in the world. Atheists and moderates have done their fair share.
So basically you are inferring that religion has no bearing on humans committing atrocities. If the selling point of religion is that it is no worse than no religion what is the value for it then?
Even if you were saying that "religious adherents" were a small group, then there is still no correlation between those people (who I am not a member of) and those responsible for all the atrocities in the world. Atheists and moderates have done their fair share.
Atheists have never murdered people in the name of Atheism.
The creative force in the universe doesn't make sense from an atheistic perspective. Nature seems to decay, which is just the opposite. That creativity has to come from somewhere.
Even children understand that.
There is also a great deal of growth and life in nature with millions of animals born each day and plants growing in abundance. Funny your subtle put down regarding children, since adults believing in the fiction of religion looks so childlike to those of us who can understand and accept the world objectively.
All "gods" are a reflections of the One God. All cultures have worshipped the same One throughout history, because even the polytheistic deities are aspects of the One.
This is actually an idea that I first heard from a SECULAR history teacher when I was in middle or high school. It's an idea that has stayed with me for decades because it makes sense to me.
And naturally that ONE god bears a familial resemblance to your favorite god.
In brief - he says that the different versions of god arise from different diagnoses of the human condition, and what their god worries about is a result of the diagnosis.
"From the Back Cover
In the twenty-first century, religion remains the single greatest influence in the world. But, argues religion scholar Stephen Prothero, persistent attempts to portray all religions as different paths to the same God overlook the distinct human problem that each seeks to solve. For example:
Islam: the problem is pride / the solution is submission
Christianity: the problem is sin / the solution is salvation
Buddhism: the problem is suffering / the solution is awakening
Judaism: the problem is exile / the solution is to return to God
God Is Not One is an indispensable guide to the questions human beings have asked for millennia—and to the disparate paths we are taking to answer them today."
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