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I never suggested it was. What I said was stoning take place in Iran and I believe it's against their law to engage in homosexual acts, but it doesn't stop Iran for having a nice size gay population. My commet was directly related to your comments of Jesus not being gay because he would have been stoned.
to be fair to christians your assertion is pretty thin. yes there is a huge gap in the story, sounds like somebody edited a whole bunch.
In regards to the life of Jesus between the age of 12 and 33, it is easy to rectify. Being that He was raised with Jewish customs, His life inbetween those years was devoted to learning and studying the Torah plus becoming a leader with the synagogue. This process takes many years of study and training which to many, could be a boring read. Therefore, since it is assumed most readers know this portion of Jewish life, it was omitted in order to show the most important aspects of His adult life.
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Personally I do not believe Jesus was gay...I think he and Mary Magdalene were a couple, if not married...and he possibly sired children. But who really cares? I don't.
All babies, when conceived, are female. All of them. The male testosterone kicks in at a few days after conception and turns that female zygote into a male. My non-medical opinion is that in the case of gay men, they simply never completely "converted" in the womb. It's not genetic, but it is a result of a hormonal glitch. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it
Have you ever seen the bogus stats and biased groups they adhere too? They try to use that to justify their anti-gay stance to the secular world. Fortunately, the secular world is not as dumb as these organizations think and will not believe their lies and half-truths. Slowly, even their followers are starting to wake up to it as well.
You dismiss it because of that? Did you look at the credentials of the authors?
Your showing your bias...
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freedom
What, no comment on the scientific site I linked to freedom? Creationist sites are biased simply because they have an agenda to make things fit to their preconceived notions, but of course you already know this.
How do you begin to convey to an atheist that homosexuality is wrong? QUOTE]
A Christian cannot convince an atheist that homosexuality is wrong. Atheist do not believe in the Christians basis for their beliefs.
Now, one could argue that homosexuality is not natural, based on the physical configuration of males and females.
Even then, it usually goes no where.
It seems this is an issue that is best to agree to disagree. At the end of the day Christians will be called homophobic bigots, by the Homosexuals, and the Christians will continue to pray for the Homosexuals!
silas777 as usual, you've summed it up. Sometimes we get so passionate about this topic and we've learned over time,no one's views seem to change. As sure as the day is long, another newbie will come along and start another homosexual/Christian thread. I promise not to get sucked in, before you know it, it's too late, I've already hit "submit reply." Now let's get out there and find the good in everyone!
What, no comment on the scientific site I linked to freedom? Creationist sites are biased simply because they have an agenda to make things fit to their preconceived notions, but of course you already know this.
Did you read the science I posted freedom?
I've read it before and commented on it before... i still maintain the same position... the brain is capable of changing based on what desires and habits that are put into it. We affect our neural connections, there are differences in peoples brains based on what type of work they do as well. It is not conclusive science and certainly not representative of it being a birth born condition.
I don't care whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not; gays exist and should be a completely accepted part of our society with all the rights and privileges accorded to straight people. But if you're going to make absolute claims that they're not born gay, and it's not genetic, then I want to see the evidence to back up your words.
People writing from a viewpoint where their faith twists their ability to present just the facts without inserting their religion into it are not reputable sources to quote, at least if you expect to be taken seriously.
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