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Old 07-11-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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No surprise there.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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A Pew survey reported at CNN.com found that evangelical protestants were the religious group most likely to say that torture of suspected terrorists is "often" or "sometimes" justified (54 percent) and the group least likely (one in eight of them) to say that torture is "never" justified.

So-called unaffiliated respondents (people who seldom or never attend church services) were less likely to say that torture is sometimes warranted (42%) and more likely (one in four) to say that it is never justified.

Interesting but I must say, not surprising. The blend of right wing politics (hawkish foreign policy, judgmental and intolerant social policy, and a screw the poor economic policy) and "Christianity" that finds expression in the American evangelical movement has always contained enough hypocrisy to gag a horse. Still, when you see data like these, you still get left shaking your head. And to think, we atheists are supposed to be the ones lacking a moral compass.
Family values and morals!
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Fear not of your eternal fate fellow brothers and sisters of agnosticism and atheist, I have recently been informed that it is the Catholic Church that is the beast, you do not bear the mark, you will be saved, but even though I'm currently not practicing and and don't even think you have to be Christian necessarily to see the pearly gates, I will be frying for ever in hell for acknowledging Catholicism as a true form of Christianity. Hats off to everybody else. But I know this person feels bad that they know for a fact I will burn for eternity. I wonder if there's and sympathy for disgracing the rest of their denomination for pretending that's where they all stand. Just like they probably feel bad that, "God" wants some people to be tortured by us, mentally or physically. I better wake up soon, or else. hehe
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Old 11-25-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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... evangelical Christians tend to recognize there is such a thing as evil...and sometimes evil cannot be negotiated with.
In the days when the Church and State were fused, they had the same attitude toward sin and apostates. They still do in many Islamic nations.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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A Pew survey reported at CNN.com found that evangelical protestants were the religious group most likely to say that torture of suspected terrorists is "often" or "sometimes" justified (54 percent) and the group least likely (one in eight of them) to say that torture is "never" justified.

So-called unaffiliated respondents (people who seldom or never attend church services) were less likely to say that torture is sometimes warranted (42%) and more likely (one in four) to say that it is never justified.

Interesting but I must say, not surprising. The blend of right wing politics (hawkish foreign policy, judgmental and intolerant social policy, and a screw the poor economic policy) and "Christianity" that finds expression in the American evangelical movement has always contained enough hypocrisy to gag a horse. Still, when you see data like these, you still get left shaking your head. And to think, we atheists are supposed to be the ones lacking a moral compass.

Interesting.


Before we get too carried away though I feel compelled to throw this into the mix:

'The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures' was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram, which measured the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to administer potentially lethal electric shocks ......in the name of science.


Watch these and be amazed:


Milgram's Obedience to Authority Experiment 2009 1/3 - YouTube



Milgram's Obedience to Authority Experiment 2009, 2/3 - YouTube



Milgram's Obedience to Authority Experiment 2009, 3/3 - YouTube
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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Suppose you truly believed there is an attack being planned against your family.

Suppose you held a captive that knew when and where the attack would happen.

Would you torture him or her to make them tell what they knew about the attack?
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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Those who believe in hell believe in "just" punishment for sinning. "Just" punishment for serious crimes is serious action, torture.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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A Pew survey reported at CNN.com found that evangelical protestants were the religious group most likely to say that torture of suspected terrorists is "often" or "sometimes" justified (54 percent) and the group least likely (one in eight of them) to say that torture is "never" justified.
Color me shocked.
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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Suppose you truly believed there is an attack being planned against your family.

Suppose you held a captive that knew when and where the attack would happen.

Would you torture him or her to make them tell what they knew about the attack?
Of course.
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