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Old 08-07-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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I mean, if someone is aware enough to discount the validity of one religion, why doesn't that carry over to all religions? They are, after all, just different flavors of the same fairy tales...
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:36 AM
 
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I mean, if someone is aware enough to discount the validity of one religion, why doesn't that carry over to all religions? They are, after all, just different flavors of the same fairy tales...
To me, I think it's a process of becoming disenchanted with one particular religion and thinking that another one offers greater benefits than the last one. I think people who convert from one religion to another do realize the illogicalness and/or hypocrisy of one religion but still want to believe that there is some sort of divine purpose to our life and that something, somewhere out there loves and cares for us. It's much easier to think that there is an afterlife to this life (I think it ties in with human instinct and wanting to live forever). It's easier to believe that all the hardships we face were worth it because we will be blessed in the next life (this is a common thread throughout most religions, blessings through hardship). It would devistate some people to come to the reality that sometimes life is really random and sucks ass and that somethings happen without rhyme or reason.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:44 AM
 
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I can't say I was ever religious because I've never adhered to one religion. In my case, I wanted to know the truth of my beliefs, or nonbeliefs, and if something didn't feel right, I just kept on looking. What I have found to be true is Divine Love because I feel it in my soul and I know wihout a doubt it is real. Anything else is still up for question. If it doesn't ring true, I keep searching until I feel that it is true.
Now I know my beliefs are very different than most on this board, and probably the only one with those beliefs, however, I do felel, in my soul, that what I post about those beliefs are true.

When I was searching, I read that if it didn't ring true in the soul, because the mind doesn't know truth, that I needed to leave it. It's worked so far and I know that there are many truths out there and those truths refleck the condition of our souls. What's true for one isn't always true for another.
God's truths are absolute while mans truths always change and when we tune ourselves to the higher frequencies, we can then know a higher truth.

I think that most people convert is because their soul no longer feels that it's being fed what it wants. It's "searching" for the right doorway to whatever it's condition is in order for it to return to God.
For athiest, I believe that the soul of that individual has not wanted or needed to return as yet. It may not ever happen however, from all I've read on it, most athiest don't start to believe in God until after death. I know without a doubt that finding God in this earth life isn't necessary so I just don't worry that others aren't on the same path. Love is the key and when we love, it matters not if we are believers or nonbelievers..
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:10 PM
 
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I mean, if someone is aware enough to discount the validity of one religion, why doesn't that carry over to all religions? They are, after all, just different flavors of the same fairy tales...
If we're talking of the Abrahamic religions, converting someone is simply convincing him to add/remove a book or two from his "officially written by God" list. Nobody tries to argue that Yaweh does not exist at all but Allah does.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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If we're talking of the Abrahamic religions, converting someone is simply convincing him to add/remove a book or two from his "officially written by God" list. Nobody tries to argue that Yaweh does not exist at all but Allah does.
In which case there ought to be no question of Christians being evangelized by Muslims and Muslims being evangelized by Christians at's all the same God anyway. Maybe the evangelists just target atheists and those not of the Book.

And yet, when I had to check conversions to religions against conversions FROM religions, I found that the conversion stories all seemed to be from protestantism to either Catholicism or Islam. the reason being that it was 'stronger'. I got the impression those people needed control and authority. They went to the religion that gave it to them.

I reckon I'd have gone atheist even I hadn't always been one as I'd react badly to being told to believe something was so because the person telling me told me that I ought to.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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Disenchantment ? Perhaps for practical reasons. One religion may provide more assistance to the needy. Some people don't want to recite a bunch of rules, and may feel more comfortable with the Quakers than the "fire and brimstone" Evangelicals. Nothing wrong with "religion hopping." It's better to check things out. Many people do not wish to lock into a set way of thinking.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:19 AM
 
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I have no problem with religion -hopping. Or 'searching' as one baptist preacher called it. One at least gets some idea of what other religions teach, as opposed to what other religions represent them as teaching.

That is in the ballpark of comparitive religion, and comparitive religion is the pathway to agnosticism, and agnosticism is the basic of atheism.

It is refusal to search that is the prerequisite of blind faith. That's why I welcome the theist to the atheist board. True, they can stop their eyes and ears, but it must be tough to take a damn' good argument and pretend they never heard it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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people convert to please a spouse or future spouse, although maybe that's a thing of the past
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:36 AM
 
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Yes, that happens. Muslims insist on it of course. That process may explains why originally Hindu nations like Malaya and Indonesia are now Muslim. Now there is so much multiculturalism, it may focus attention on whether to look for a same - religion partner or hook up with someone and agree to differ or put pressure on to convert. Of course, even getting a co- religionist partner doesn't avoid problems, especially if one of the partners changes faith or loses it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:42 AM
 
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Arequipa, You're in London? hi!!!

that's very true
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