Atlanta ( New York of the South? ) (Dallas, White: live in, rated, places)

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

This anomaly has nothing to do with those facts.

What do you mean?

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

What do you mean?

Atlanta was/is the default city that represented/s the south. Same goes for New York City. Other reasons have been previously stated in the thread.

Houston, Dallas, and Miami don't represent the south like Atlanta. They just don't, forget about how Atlanta isn't the most economically powerful, etc. That's not the point.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Atlanta was/is the default city that represented/s the south. Same goes for New York City. Other reasons have been previously stated in the thread.

Houston, Dallas, and Miami don't represent the south like Atlanta. They just don't, forget about how Atlanta isn't the most economically powerful, etc. That's not the point.

That is in the minds of Atlantans.

The south is too big and Diverse to be defaulted by a metro as small as ATL.

what have those posters from ATL programmed in your head???

See me monday for some corrective hypnotic therapy. You have been brainwashed Mr Annie.

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Atlanta was/is the default city that represented/s the south. Same goes for New York City. Other reasons have been previously stated in the thread.

Houston, Dallas, and Miami don't represent the south like Atlanta. They just don't, forget about how Atlanta isn't the most economically powerful, etc. That's not the point.

What is the point? Ok, so we can remove the 3 largest cities from the south beacuse they don't meet someone's idea of what the south should be? Why do have to forget about economics and power? Isn't that what New York is to the Northeast? If we're going to hold Atlanta to a equal stature in the south shouldn't the same contributions apply?

I don't know how to see it any other way. Like seriously. None of the Northeastern cities are the same yet nobody questions their 'northeasterness'. On the other hand as soon as a city breaks free of the whistlin' dixie in the pine trees stereotype it's no longer southern.

Question Annie, does Atlanta represent you?

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by FantasyFootballGuy

I have heard a lot of people say that Atlanta is the New York of the South and that Atlanta has a New York vibe to it. What do you guys think of that? Is it true or false in your opinion? Also, if Atlanta does have a New York feel to it and if Atlanta is the New York of the South, then would you say that is a good thing for Atlanta or a bad thing Atlanta?

I must be a star, cause somebody lied.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

That is in the minds of Atlantans.

The south is too big and Diverse to be defaulted by a metro as small as ATL.

what have those posters from ATL programmed in your head???

See me monday for some corrective hypnotic therapy. You have been brainwashed Mr Annie.

It's a general statement. If its free, I just might come.

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

What is the point? Ok, so we can remove the 3 largest cities from the south beacuse they don't meet someone's idea of what the south should be? Why do have to forget about economics and power? Isn't that what New York is to the Northeast? If we're going to hold Atlanta to a equal stature in the south shouldn't the same contributions apply?

I don't know how to see it any other way. Like seriously. None of the Northeastern cities are the same yet nobody questions their 'northeasterness'. On the other hand as soon as a city breaks free of the whistlin' dixie in the pine trees stereotype it's no longer southern.

Question Annie, does Atlanta represent you?

It's not a literal meaning. I don't know how else to explain it. I'm not questioning any cities southernness. And I'm not judging based on a cities credibility of being southern.

Of course not Atlanta doesn't represent me, and when I was in LA, neither did an of the Big 4 cities. I never said Atlanta rules the south, it was merely the default big city of the general south and the poster child as it hosted the Olympics (among other reasons) and grew into a larger city. Was it not? People viewed Houston and Dallas as country and Texan, Miami is obvious. Hence the reason I believe the nickname fits, or at least used to fit.

Shouldn't be this hard to grasp.

[WestbankNOLA]

What is the general south? If people didn't pass around beaucoup definitions of what southern is and isn't there wouldn't be anything to grasp. Some of the same poster in here who will say that Atlanta represents the south will be the same one's saying that Atlanta isn't southern anymore in another thread. Just like Miami, Houston, Dallas, and Virginia cities are southern only when it's convenient to the poster. On that same note Louisiana is always the epitome of southern charm when you and me both know better, Annie. That's why I don't grasp it, because it's bull****. People are basically saying "Atlanta is the closest to the stereotypical south that you'll find in a big city so we'll call it such and such. I fully grasp what you all are trying to say, I just can't take it seriously because it overlooks reality.

[Georgiafrog]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

That is in the minds of Atlantans.

The south is too big and Diverse to be defaulted by a metro as small as ATL.

what have those posters from ATL programmed in your head???

See me monday for some corrective hypnotic therapy. You have been brainwashed Mr Annie.

I'm in no way an Atlanta booster, but there is a big difference between Georgia and Texas. There is a "southeastern" vibe, or attitude that exists in states like Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, and even North Carolina and Tennessee that is not evident in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida. If you want to group all of the southern states together, then I understand the entry of cities like Miami, Dallas, New Orleans and Houston. But any real comparison between Georgia and Texas, or Alabama and Florida, or even Mississippi and Louisiana is missing the mark.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA

What is the general south? If people didn't pass around beaucoup definitions of what southern is and isn't there wouldn't be anything to grasp. Some of the same poster in here who will say that Atlanta represents the south will be the same one's saying that Atlanta isn't southern anymore in another thread. Just like Miami, Houston, Dallas, and Virginia cities are southern only when it's convenient to the poster. On that same note Louisiana is always the epitome of southern charm when you and me both know better, Annie. That's why I don't grasp it, because it's bull****. People are basically saying "Atlanta is the closest to the stereotypical south that you'll find in a big city so we'll call it such and such. I fully grasp what you all are trying to say, I just can't take it seriously because it overlooks reality.

That's right. The general south is the stereotypical south, or the MS, AL, and GA southern.

Confused about the underlined a little..

Originally Posted by Georgiafrog

I'm in no way an Atlanta booster, but there is a big difference between Georgia and Texas. There is a "southeastern" vibe, or attitude that exists in states like Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, and even North Carolina and Tennessee that is not evident in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida. If you want to group all of the southern states together, then I understand the entry of cities like Miami, Dallas, New Orleans and Houston.

Very true, although N LA fits that vibe well.

[WestbankNOLA]

I'd say that southeastern vibe ends slightly west of the MS/AL line. As most of MS markets itself as South Central vs Southeast and the western end of TN along with AR consider themselves Mid-South. On that note MS is more like LA than AL & GA IMO. It's sort of caught in the middle. Either way there is a big difference between Southeast, which is slightly subjective, and he south as a whole.