New T-Splost Chances Rising (Atlanta, Duluth: transfer, taxes, live)

[MattCW]

Maybe this time, they can have the election in Novemeber when more people will be at the polls instead of some ridiculous off-time that drew maybe 20% of the registered voters.

gtcorndog: 200,000 people times the thirty seconds the 400 interchange would actually save, is about 69 person-days saved per day. The 17,500 total boardings for the light rail route, could save as many as 72 person-days per day, but probably many, many more since I only ran the time for Lindbergh to Emory and most of the people on this corridor would be coming from other areas. The breakeven point for cost per person-day saved is the transit saving 96 person-days per day. Or for the 17,500 projected boardings, saving about 8 minutes per person. Over the Lindberg to Emory segment only, the projected time savings was about 6 minutes. Easily doable.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by gtcorndog

Which, at $500 million would've benefited the 200,000+ people who use that interchange each day. That was a project that made sense.

However when you package it with $700 million going to a light rail route expected to service just 5,300 new MARTA users, people stop supporting the package deal.

Dude, I'm not debating this again with you. You've beaten this subject to death.
If its just Fulton, DeKalb, and Clayton this time, I don't wanna hear anything from you since you won't be voting!

[gtcorndog]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Maybe this time, they can have the election in Novemeber when more people will be at the polls instead of some ridiculous off-time that drew maybe 20% of the registered voters.

gtcorndog: 200,000 people times the thirty seconds the 400 interchange would actually save, is about 69 person-days saved per day. The 17,500 total boardings for the light rail route, could save as many as 72 person-days per day, but probably many, many more since I only ran the time for Lindbergh to Emory and most of the people on this corridor would be coming from other areas. The breakeven point for cost per person-day saved is the transit saving 96 person-days per day. Or for the 17,500 projected boardings, saving about 8 minutes per person. Over the Lindberg to Emory segment only, the projected time savings was about 6 minutes. Easily doable.

Where did you come up with the 30 seconds time saving? That seems quite low and unrealistic given how much that entire intersection backs up traffic. I would argue that it is at least 3-5 times that (as a conservative estimate).

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MattCW

... 200,000 people times the thirty seconds the 400 interchange would actually save, is about 69 person-days saved per day. The 17,500 total boardings for the light rail route, could save as many as 72 person-days per day, but probably many, many more since I only ran the time for Lindbergh to Emory and most of the people on this corridor would be coming from other areas. The breakeven point for cost per person-day saved is the transit saving 96 person-days per day. Or for the 17,500 projected boardings, saving about 8 minutes per person. Over the Lindberg to Emory segment only, the projected time savings was about 6 minutes. Easily doable.

Valid points. I'll be glad to see the 400 interchange improved as it is an important part of the region. In practical terms, however, it's hard to see how it will have a huge impact on the average person.

[lastminutemom]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Valid points. I'll be glad to see the 400 interchange improved as it is an important part of the region. In practical terms, however, it's hard to see how it will have a huge impact on the average person.

This interchange is going to be improved regardless, it is the Governor's number one priority. Perimeter Center is an important part of the state's economy and this Governor is very focused on economic development, so this is a priority.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by lastminutemom

Perimeter Center is an important part of the state's economy and this Governor is very focused on economic development, so this is a priority.

It sure is. You may have seen my post yesterday on the importance of the Perimeter office market..

[Nanosolar]

Originally Posted by gtcorndog

Shocking. The people who were to gain the most were in favor of it.

Do you think this is the reason the surrounding counties voted against it?

Do those residents enjoy all the roads, trains, and other infrastructure in Atlanta that they don't pay for but residents do. YES.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by lastminutemom

This interchange is going to be improved regardless, it is the Governor's number one priority. Perimeter Center is an important part of the state's economy and this Governor is very focused on economic development, so this is a priority.

More important than Emory and CDC?

[onemanarmy]

Originally Posted by lastminutemom

This interchange is going to be improved regardless, it is the Governor's number one priority. Perimeter Center is an important part of the state's economy and this Governor is very focused on economic development, so this is a priority.

I don't disagree, however the perimeter and North Fulton happens to be a part of his political constituency. I'm glad this is done by DOT, so when the tsplost is up for vote we can take it off the list.

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by cqholt

More important than Emory and CDC?

I would be careful what cards you play.

I'm not arguing against Emory/CDC, but the answer to this question is a HUGE YES.

Perimeter Center has far more jobs, is better connected, Fortune 500 company headquarters, much more office space, high density residential, and has much more growth potential.

Despite being built entirely after the invention of the car, it isn't a little suburban area like you would otherwise want to believe. It is a whole new business district.

To be frank, I'm actually surprised someone brought this up.