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Old 09-05-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Ah, so you work in construction. Cool. You also don't know ANYTHING about me. I've directed several national spots, documentary features, and shorts in multiple countries. Just online my work has over 11 million views. But that's cool, you're building a soundstage so you're clearly more successful.

My argument this entire time has been that Georgia is not a place for above the line work, and the big feature boom is only temporary. I moved to LA because that's where they hire all the keys and creatives. Anyway, cheers

EDIT: "Real industry professionals" don't see Georgia as anything other than a temporary tax-break production haven. Seriously, come out to LA and bring up the georgia film industry to anybody. You're kidding yourself dude
I work in construction? LOL! You're arrogance is appalling. My screename should give it away ... but if not, maybe this will help:

Quoting Pinewood-Shepperton's VP for Operations Brian Cooper:

"An important aspect of the overall project, and one that has been stressed from the beginning, is the educational component designed to provide skills and training to the large and varied workforce that will fill the employment ranks of the various companies that are expected to move into the area."

“We will need a skilled labor force that will run the gamut,” Cooper said in terms of the various types of jobs that will be needed. “That’s why we need to look at a number of schools, to train the next generation in this industry.”

As the studio grows, a variety of types of vendors serving the industry will call Pinewood Atlanta Studios home.

“This operation will bring a lot of people to the community,” Cooper said, citing post-production companies as an example. “There is nearly no post-production done [now] in Georgia. Most of it is done in California. This is a highly technical, specific industry. And some of them will come here to teach Georgia residents.”

So you clearly know NOT A DAMN THING about the Pinewood project, the people and money behind it, Pinewood Shepperton's long-range plans for investment in Georgia OR the educational component that they are building to establish a permanent, skilled workforce that can produce film and television projects from concept to completion WITHOUT LEAVING GEORGIA! They want NOTHING to do with the California entertainment establishment or else they would have made a presence there before now.

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Old 09-05-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I work in construction? LOL! You're arrogance is appalling. My screename should give it away ... but if not, maybe this will help:

Quoting Pinewood-Shepperton's VP for Operations Brian Cooper:

"An important aspect of the overall project, and one that has been stressed from the beginning, is the educational component designed to provide skills and training to the large and varied workforce that will fill the employment ranks of the various companies that are expected to move into the area."

“We will need a skilled labor force that will run the gamut,” Cooper said in terms of the various types of jobs that will be needed. “That’s why we need to look at a number of schools, to train the next generation in this industry.”

As the studio grows, a variety of types of vendors serving the industry will call Pinewood Atlanta Studios home.

“This operation will bring a lot of people to the community,” Cooper said, citing post-production companies as an example. “There is nearly no post-production done [now] in Georgia. Most of it is done in California. This is a highly technical, specific industry. And some of them will come here to teach Georgia residents.”

So you clearly know NOT A DAMN THING about the Pinewood project, the people and money behind it, Pinewood Shepperton's long-range plans for investment in Georgia OR the educational component that they are building to establish a permanent, skilled workforce that can produce film and television projects from concept to completion WITHOUT LEAVING GEORGIA! They want NOTHING to do with the California entertainment establishment or else they would have made a presence there before now.
Cool. That's a lot of talk. Let me know when a big post house moves to Atlanta. Or a big production company. Or a big producer. Or a big director. Rather than the opposite, the draining of creative talent leaving Atlanta to LA (all of the big name writers/directors from georgia live where? I'll give you one guess)

This is all pipe dream stuff. It's been tried in many different places. If you knew your history, you'd know that Vancouver is one of the biggest outsources for post work in Hollywood. Guess what happened recently? No more tax incentives, no more post work. I don't know why you think Atlanta will be any different.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Cool. That's a lot of talk. Let me know when a big post house moves to Atlanta. Or a big production company. Or a big producer. Or a big director. Rather than the opposite, the draining of creative talent leaving Atlanta to LA (all of the big name writers/directors from georgia live where? I'll give you one guess)

This is all pipe dream stuff. It's been tried in many different places. If you knew your history, you'd know that Vancouver is one of the biggest outsources for post work in Hollywood. Guess what happened recently? No more tax incentives, no more post work. I don't know why you think Atlanta will be any different.
Vancouver never had a name like Pinewood Shepperton investing in the industry there. No city or state that's offered incentives has EVER had a name like Pinewood-Shepperton ... or anything close to Pinewood-Shepperton. THAT is why Atlanta is different.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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EDIT: "Real industry professionals" don't see Georgia as anything other than a temporary tax-break production haven. Seriously, come out to LA and bring up the georgia film industry to anybody. You're kidding yourself dude
I agree. I work in the industry locally (although my job isn't directly related to production) and anyone who thinks Atlanta is going to takeover Hollywood in the next few years is mistaken. Sure, as long as the tax credits hold up it's a good production area but nothing permanent.

Most of what I find hindering this (besides instability with things like tax credits) is on the talent relocation -- it's like pulling teeth to try and get people to relocate from NYC or LA to Atlanta. You can glorify Atlanta all you want, but to the majority of people in CA or NYC, Atlanta is not a place for creatives, actors, etc. -- it's way too country bumpkin for that. Now, actually being here isn't bad, but it's the perception people have whether you like it or not.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I agree. I work in the industry locally (although my job isn't directly related to production) and anyone who thinks Atlanta is going to takeover Hollywood in the next few years is mistaken. Sure, as long as the tax credits hold up it's a good production area but nothing permanent.

Most of what I find hindering this (besides instability with things like tax credits) is on the talent relocation -- it's like pulling teeth to try and get people to relocate from NYC or LA to Atlanta. You can glorify Atlanta all you want, but to the majority of people in CA or NYC, Atlanta is not a place for creatives, actors, etc. -- it's way too country bumpkin for that. Now, actually being here isn't bad, but it's the perception people have whether you like it or not.
Thank you for this. It's hard to break past the ATL circle-jerk in this forum.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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Can we please have an discussion in the Atlanta forum about Atlanta instead of throwing other cities in the discussion
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I agree. I work in the industry locally (although my job isn't directly related to production) and anyone who thinks Atlanta is going to takeover Hollywood in the next few years is mistaken. Sure, as long as the tax credits hold up it's a good production area but nothing permanent.

Most of what I find hindering this (besides instability with things like tax credits) is on the talent relocation -- it's like pulling teeth to try and get people to relocate from NYC or LA to Atlanta. You can glorify Atlanta all you want, but to the majority of people in CA or NYC, Atlanta is not a place for creatives, actors, etc. -- it's way too country bumpkin for that. Now, actually being here isn't bad, but it's the perception people have whether you like it or not.
Oh right ... the cast and crew of "The Walking Dead" just HATE living in Atlanta! They're just kicking and screaming to have to come down here and get paid eons of money to work on a hit show. Give me a break! Anybody in "the industry" is just happy to have a job and they go where the work is. It's always been like this. Besides, countless actors (as well as directors and producers) have stated quite often how much they enjoy working in Georgia. It's only the grunts apparently who think it is beneath them to have to leave LA or NYC. Whatever ...
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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There's a cool shot of the Swan house in "The Hunger Games: Catching Fire."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAuV8zUt1bk
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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People are very mislead if they think Atlanta is the next Hollywood.
Atlanta does not have to have production activity to the extent of Hollywood for film-making to be a nice-sized industry here. Just like we don't have to be Silicon Valley to have a nice-sized tech industry here. I think we'll hold our own and be proud of what we have.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Sandy Springs, GA
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Its not that Atlanta is country bumpkin... its that Atlanta really isn't that big and every single area outside of Atlanta is country bumpkin.

I can understand a Californian not wanting to make the move out here. Atlanta has less to offer in every single category except for cost of living and housing prices.

You could probably get a New Yorker to move here.... but that would probably mean losing the opportunity to quickly advance in their career.
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