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Old 01-12-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: 30080
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And let me just point out that there has NEVER been a marijuana related death recorded, EVER. And once again this guy's logic is just silly. His whole stance is that oh it's legal now so everyone is going to run and buy it. One of the dumbest views on marijuana i've seen.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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And let me just point out that there has NEVER been a marijuana related death recorded, EVER. And once again this guy's logic is just silly. His whole stance is that oh it's legal now so everyone is going to run and buy it. One of the dumbest views on marijuana i've seen.
Windsor man pleads guilty in death of Augusta woman | The Kennebec Journal, Augusta, ME
Prosecutor: High driver killed Bellevue motorcyclist - seattlepi.com

There's two right there, and that's from about 10 seconds of Googling.
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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There have been ZERO deaths linked to marijuana overdoses. Those drivers made the decision to drive impaired, just like the many millions of drivers who choose to drive drunk or choose to drive without a proper amount of sleep.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:34 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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By this logic, over the counter allergy meds that make you drowsy should also be made illegal because someone might get in their car and drive after popping a few Benadryls. :roll eyes:

If marijuana is decriminalized, it should still continue to be against the law to operate a vehicle while under the influence of it. In other words, it should be treated just like alcohol...and alcohol is something you can most certainly die from just consuming it. Quite easily.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Second...having said that cigarettes and alcohol are bad for you...SO WHAT? What does that have to do with medical marijuana or legalizing marijuana? Everyone else is doing it. That's your defense? That stuff kills you so why not let something else kill you? Contrary to what potheads and many advocates would have you believe...it is harmful and it is psychologically addictive.
Marijuana in moderation is less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco. It is also less addictive.

Almost anything can be psychologically addictive. Overeating is probably the worst psychological addiction our country is facing right now. Should we ban food?

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Smoking causes lung cancer.
You are very confused. Marijuana smoke does NOT cause lung cancer to anywhere near the degree tobacco smoke does. Many studies have already shown that.

The association between marijuana smoking an... [Arch Intern Med. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

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Nineteen studies met selection criteria. Studies that examined lung cancer risk factors or premalignant changes in the lung found an association of marijuana smoking with increased tar exposure, alveolar macrophage tumoricidal dysfunction, increased oxidative stress, and bronchial mucosal histopathologic abnormalities compared with tobacco smokers or nonsmoking controls. Observational studies of subjects with marijuana exposure failed to demonstrate significant associations between marijuana smoking and lung cancer after adjusting for tobacco use. The primary methodologic deficiencies noted include selection bias, small sample size, limited generalizability, overall young participant age precluding sufficient lag time for lung cancer outcome identification, and lack of adjustment for tobacco smoking.
Even that being the case, as I have already indicated there are healthier ways to consume cannabis than smoking, so using that to argue for its continued criminalization is illogical.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:40 PM
 
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Is marijuana really helpful for medical purposes? Why not just use the other forms of treatment?
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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And let me just point out that there has NEVER been a marijuana related death recorded, EVER. And once again this guy's logic is just silly. His whole stance is that oh it's legal now so everyone is going to run and buy it. One of the dumbest views on marijuana i've seen.
There's never been a cigarette death either then, right? They're all cancer or pulmonary related maladies, right? All drunk driving deaths are really car crash deaths, right? You are absurd in your thinking if you think there has never been a death related to pot smoking.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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nm this debate is pointless. I still cant believe people are still arguing over ****ing weed.
At this point it's just suffering from the inertia problem.

When something has been illegal for a long time it acquires a stigma as something "bad" just because it is illegal. The reasons it was made illegal are not necessarily considered anymore by some.

Weed was made illegal in the 30s because a racist (Harry Anslinger) claimed that it made black men rape white women when they consumed it. This is obviously absurd and would never be considered valid reasoning today. As more people realize that it is not more harmful than substances that are already legal the valid reasons for it being illegal basically go away altogether.

The war on drugs is mainly still an exercise in racism today. I enjoy a good toke after work sometimes. As a relatively affluent white person, I have next to no fear that the police are going to arrest me for that. That is hardly the case for a lower income black person.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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There's never been a cigarette death either then, right? They're all cancer or pulmonary related maladies, right? All drunk driving deaths are really car crash deaths, right? You are absurd in your thinking if you think there has never been a death related to pot smoking.
There has never been a documented case of marijuana overdose. It is nearly impossible to overdose on pot. People die all of the time from alcohol abuse.

Here's another way of looking at it...And I'm going to assume you're a pro-gun person (since you claim to be a "libertarian"). Do guns kill people or do people kill people? Well, did alcohol kill the driver or was the driver killed because he decided to drive intoxicated?
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:28 PM
 
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Is marijuana really helpful for medical purposes? Why not just use the other forms of treatment?
marijuana is often the best treatment for a lot of diseases. This is especially true for treating soldiers with PTSD. However, since marijuana is illegal in most states, doctors are forced to issue prescriptions for drugs that have suicide listed as a side effect. It is no coincidence that more soldiers are dying from suicide today then they are from battle.
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