Stats that show the Atlanta Streetcar was a complete and utter failure of epic proportion (train, transit)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Good point, GDOT should do the same with federal highway funding.

Have the feds send back all the gas tax money they collect from the state and GDOT would be delighted.

[MikeHonchoATL]

Atlanta Streetcar | Desire or Disaster? | 11alive.com

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by bu2

Have the feds send back all the gas tax money they collect from the state and GDOT would be delighted.

Speaking from experience, FHWA is useless.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Atlanta Streetcar | Desire or Disaster? | 11alive.com

Well, some are saying you can't judge it until the rest of the thing is built out and that could take decades.

On the other hand, it does seem odd that there hasn't been an increase in foot traffic for businesses right on the line.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by architect77

You can throw a rock from one station to another near GP building and Broad St/ Woodruff Park. I don't care if they are headed in opposite directions or not.

Your response wasted my time. For $100 million it is expected that the investment help the local congestion situation.

Georgia was "supposed" to be planning ahead and increasing mobility during the last 25 years, but they didn't.

There's not enough critical thinking happening in Georgia and Atlanta.


That's why our secondary roads look so primitive, pothole-ridden, 80% of street sign crooked, etc.

No one is questioning whether there's a better way to address our specific problems.

If a streetcar is restricted to a narrow definition of use, then Peachtree St. should be the only candidate, from downtown to Lenox.

Unless you have some sort of 'magic rock' that can bend corners and go around buildings, your statement is false.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Atlanta Streetcar | Desire or Disaster? | 11alive.com

So much for their 'transportation expert.' 11 Alive cherry picked a guy who works for 'free market think tank' and has never worked at in his field. He has only worked as a lobbyist.

Prior to joining Reason, Feigenbaum handled transportation issues on Capitol Hill for Representative Lynn Westmoreland. He earned his Master’s degree in Transportation from the Georgia Institute of Technology.

https://www.heartland.org/about-us/w...uch-feigenbaum

[MikeHonchoATL]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So much for their 'transportation expert.' 11 Alive cherry picked a guy who works for 'free market think tank' and has never worked at in his field. He has only worked as a lobbyist.

https://www.heartland.org/about-us/w...uch-feigenbaum

What about this guy? Is he anti-transit?

THE BUSINESS OWNER

“Traffic! Traffic it’s getting even worse.” Dru Kelly manages Harold’s Chicken & Ice Bar on Edgewood. He says the streetcar has increased street traffic, but unfortunately for his business, not foot traffic. What about that economic boom that was promised?

“Hahahaha,” Kelly lets out a giggle when we ask about it. “I’m sorry. Yeah.” He points to the empty platforms you can see from inside his restaurant.

“I see probably two or three people there the whole day," he said. "It’s bad. It’s that bad.”

Ridership is down more than 50 percent since last year. Based on the city’s numbers, 11Alive compared the first six months of 2015 and 2016. Between January and June of 2015, there were 384,788 riders. During that same period this year, there were 191,607 riders.

Or this one?

“That’s half, even less than half of what we projected,” Atlanta City Council woman Felicia Moore said in a recent meeting.

The dropping numbers raised eyebrows among some city leaders.

“We need to be figuring out why people aren’t using it,” she said.

The ridership isn’t the only thing less than projected.

“Our revenues are under projection.” The announcement was made at that same City Council meeting. The streetcar is pulling in $32 an hour.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

What about this guy? Is he anti-transit?

Nice deflection technique, did corndog show you that?

[MikeHonchoATL]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Nice deflection technique, did corndog show you that?

Because they quoted someone who has a background you don't like, the facts that are presented are invalid?

C'mon son. Think.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by MikeHonchoATL

Because they quoted someone who has a background you don't like, the facts that are presented are invalid?

C'mon son. Think.

That presented no evidence of him having any experience in the industry.