Stats that show the Atlanta Streetcar was a complete and utter failure of epic proportion (Dallas: 2014, costs)

[JPD]

Originally Posted by primaltech

It's a tourist ride for carrying a few out of state visitors per day, to see the King Center, and ride the stupid Ferris wheel. Signal priority is not needed for that.

Signal priority would be a good feature because it would reduce the log jam of cars behind the streetcar that results from it catching red lights at most intersections. It would not only improve transit times, but it would reduce traffic congestion and driving time.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Oh no, you are mistaken. He is is back.

Must be under a different name, or the two matching variations. No posts from any of them.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by JPD

Signal priority would be a good feature because it would reduce the log jam of cars behind the streetcar that results from it catching red lights at most intersections. It would not only improve transit times, but it would reduce traffic congestion and driving time.

Oh, I realize that. I'm saying that expansion most come first. The small section that exists doesn't really justify it, but for a city wide system focused on serving residents on a daily basis, more than just tourists, a signal priority/synchronization system would be an absolute priority.

At the very least. A dedicated transit lane as well would be even better.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

Must be under a different name, or the two matching variations. No posts from any of them.

Dirk McGirt

[cqholt]

Once the streetcar gets expanded to the BeltLine ROW, where it has it's own lane, we will see how well Streetcar/LRT can operate. The Siemens S70 was chosen because it offers flexibility where it can run in mixed traffic and it's own ROW. The current Westside Trail is being built to where streetcar rails can be laid even faster/cheaper than on the Eastside Trail.

[BajanYankee]

So that short segment cost $98 million?

Instead of raising more funds for a streetcar expansion, why not raise funds for MARTA rail infill stations? An infill station in Atlanta would probably be half the cost of the most recent additions to DC's Metro system.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Oh, I realize that. I'm saying that expansion most come first. The small section that exists doesn't really justify it, but for a city wide system focused on serving residents on a daily basis, more than just tourists, a signal priority/synchronization system would be an absolute priority.

At the very least. A dedicated transit lane as well would be even better.

That would have been ideal. At the very least, they should have created room for it to pull to the side at the stop under the connector where it sits for a long time. As it is, people routinely make illegal and potentially dangerous passes to get by it.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

So that short segment cost $98 million?

Instead of raising more funds for a streetcar expansion, why not raise funds for MARTA rail infill stations? An infill station in Atlanta would probably be half the cost of the most recent additions to DC's Metro system.

There was some talk of an infill station at Krog Street. Hopefully that'll gain steam. It'd be ideal to have a station right on the Beltline in this area, especially with the rapid infill that's going on.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

An infill station in Atlanta would probably be half the cost of the most recent additions to DC's Metro system.

Why would it be half?

I bet the Pershing Point Infill station alone would be more than the cost of this first Streetcar segment.

Of course I think we should scrap the 400/285 updates and do both.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

So that short segment cost $98 million?

Instead of raising more funds for a streetcar expansion, why not raise funds for MARTA rail infill stations? An infill station in Atlanta would probably be half the cost of the most recent additions to DC's Metro system.

The streetcar is serving as a last mile connection, also streetcar is funded by CoA not MARTA. adding infill stations are great, but not if riders do not have other transit options to get them to their destinations.