Road Diets & Protected Bike lanes Funded for Spring & Juniper Streets in Midtown (hotel, bus)

[JPD]

I have a large yard. Larger than I realized when I was out raking leaves this weekend. From my deck to the fence is farther than I can throw a ball. That's my measure for the absolute maximum yard anyone other than a farmer needs. So it's too big, really. I also have a house that's larger than I will ever need. AND I live an easy ten minute walk from MARTA. It takes me only five minutes longer to get to work by walking to the station and taking the train than it does to drive.

So, no, you don't have to live in a cramped environment to be able to utilize MARTA. That is a blatant, agenda driven lie.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by JPD

I have a large yard. Larger than I realized when I was out raking leaves this weekend. From my deck to the fence is farther than I can throw a ball. That's my measure for the absolute maximum yard anyone other than a farmer needs. So it's too big, really. I also have a house that's larger than I will ever need. AND I live an easy ten minute walk from MARTA. It takes me only five minutes longer to get to work by walking to the station and taking the train than it does to drive.

So, no, you don't have to live in a cramped environment to be able to utilize MARTA. That is a blatant, agenda driven lie.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by cqholt

I used it on a Saturday to pick some one up from the airport, it did not take 60 mins.

Did you miss the entire part where I said "not to the terminal but to offices nearby"? That was a pretty important detail in determining those times. And I also assume you included your walk/bike ride from home, the waits at the stations, the transfers, etc. I'm going to guess that ride in particular took around 45 minutes minimum as the train rides alone are 25 minutes.

Originally Posted by jsvh

I am not trying to deny you the joys of Atlanta traffic if that is your preference. But you need to accept that people like me prefer other options and in order to facilitate those alternatives it requires supporting things like road diets, bike lanes, and legalizing denser zoning.

I need to accept it? You mean, like when I said "to each his own"? Like that?

Originally Posted by JPD

I have a large yard. Larger than I realized when I was out raking leaves this weekend. From my deck to the fence is farther than I can throw a ball. That's my measure for the absolute maximum yard anyone other than a farmer needs. So it's too big, really. I also have a house that's larger than I will ever need. AND I live an easy ten minute walk from MARTA. It takes me only five minutes longer to get to work by walking to the station and taking the train than it does to drive.

So, no, you don't have to live in a cramped environment to be able to utilize MARTA. That is a blatant, agenda driven lie.[/quote]

And is your situation normal and widespread? No. Just like I can use my easy, quick commute to somehow prove that you don't have to sit in traffic in Atlanta even when you live more than ten miles from work. But, that's not typical. For the most part, you have to sacrifice either space, affordability, or safety/modernization to live near MARTA (rail). That's not an agenda-driven lie. It's pure fact. And that's fine. Some people obviously have no problem with that, and many actually want that. That's great. Nothing wrong with that at all.

But, let's stop with all the "you people in your metal death-boxes on your car sewers, killing pedestrians and running over cyclists to get from your low-density McMansions to your suburban chain restaurants just 3 seconds faster than you would otherwise", mkay?

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

Did you miss the entire part where I said "not to the terminal but to offices nearby"? That was a pretty important detail in determining those times. And I also assume you included your walk/bike ride from home, the waits at the stations, the transfers, etc. I'm going to guess that ride in particular took around 45 minutes minimum as the train rides alone are 25 minutes.

If I have to connect somewhere not on a major transit line I usually take an Uber. But I am usually going straight into the terminal at the airport.

Still, you are missing the point again. You are pigeonholing yourself into only trying to get places with poor transit access and then you are only focusing on the time it takes.

I make the choice to live and work near transit access, and even if it will still take me more time to take transit than drive I prefer to spend extra time on transit that stuck behind a wheel.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Still, you are missing the point again. You are pigeonholing yourself into only trying to get places with poor transit access and then you are only focusing on the time it takes.

I'm looking at places that I actually go and want to go...not just randomly searching out hard-to-get-to places. And I also used an example with the headquarters for the largest employer in Atlanta (not that all of them work there...but many do).

I don't pigeonholing myself to only places accessible by transit (very few). And yes, pretty much the most important aspect of a commute is the time it takes and the waiting involved, seconded by the direct costs involved. I cannot think of any other major factor I would consider. If it's 20 minutes by car, and 60 minutes by transit, I cannot think of a single reason I would want to take transit instead. That's an hour and a half less time at home or doing something more enjoyable. But, that's me...not you. This, we have determined.

I make the choice to live and work near transit access, and even if it will still take me more time to take transit than drive I prefer to spend extra time on transit that stuck behind a wheel.

Cool.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

And is your situation normal and widespread? No.

What does this mean, and how do you know that the answer is no?

[cqholt]

The Juniper protected bike lanes will help with N-S bike facilities thru Midtown's business district. Can't wait!

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

The Juniper protected bike lanes will help with N-S bike facilities thru Midtown's business district. Can't wait!

Seems like they would just go ahead and put them on Peachtree so that cyclists can get to businesses without having to cut over.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Seems like they would just go ahead and put them on Peachtree so that cyclists can get to businesses without having to cut over.

I know what you are poking at. Not the same.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

I'm looking at places that I actually go and want to go...not just randomly searching out hard-to-get-to places. And I also used an example with the headquarters for the largest employer in Atlanta (not that all of them work there...but many do).

I don't pigeonholing myself to only places accessible by transit (very few). And yes, pretty much the most important aspect of a commute is the time it takes and the waiting involved, seconded by the direct costs involved. I cannot think of any other major factor I would consider. If it's 20 minutes by car, and 60 minutes by transit, I cannot think of a single reason I would want to take transit instead. That's an hour and a half less time at home or doing something more enjoyable. But, that's me...not you. This, we have determined.

Who is pigeonholed? I bet I travel farther, wider, and more often than you do. I just plan my life (including where I live and work) so I have great options to enjoy the journey too. And I personally enjoy the journey a lot more when I am not driving (especially in traffic). Honestly, there are A lot of times I feel like my transit trip is too quick. I am just getting into a great section of a book or something like that.