The effort to split Fulton County in two is back again (Atlanta: sales, 2014)

[sedimenjerry]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

So if they do split, where does Atlanta go? Will North Fulton attempt to capture Atlanta as wealth and investment continues to pour into the city?

I doubt they want anything to do with the city of Atlanta.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

So if they do split, where does Atlanta go? Will North Fulton attempt to capture Atlanta as wealth and investment continues to pour into the city?

And what about MARTA? What about sewer and water and power? What about trash? What about fire and police and Grady and ambulance?

I know all this CAN be worked out, but I just don't see easy ways.

[demonta4]

I don't care what anyone says. Look at South Fulton then take a look at North Fulton. It's pretty obvious which part is being deprived of tax money.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by Caleb Longstreet

For all the bashing you do, why do you want their money so badly. They did earn it you know

I live in North Fulton. And I work hard, and make my own money. And I also have had good luck in life.

You seem to have a very simplified worldview. Our reality is actually a whole lot more complicated and nuanced than Sean Hannity described it to you. The idea of welfare/safety net/redistribution is complicated in its effects and various benefits, some positive, some negative. The idea of fairness is also complex and difficult to pin down. Everyone was born into a different individual situation, with entirely different sets of circumstances and challenges, advantages, privileges, etc. White conservatives tend to not understand this.

Not to mention there are purely economic theory based reasons for why it's better for rich people to spread some of the wealth around, rather than hoard it all.

But, no, this particular topic in this thread is not about ideologies so much as it is about a metropolitan region, and how ours sucks because of all this kind of localized selfishness. North Fulton is already wealthy. The priority here should be what the effects would be on the greater region and its important and pressing needs, not some guy in Johns Creek who wants to upgrade from the 2012 Mercedes to the 2016, while families in South Fulton are trying to figure out how to afford Christmas dinner. Opportunities, education, culture, circumstances, the fact that not everyone can be a CEO, and someone has to run the cash register and clean the toilet. Do you understand these things?

[skbl17]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

And what about MARTA? What about sewer and water and power? What about trash? What about fire and police and Grady and ambulance?

I know all this CAN be worked out, but I just don't see easy ways.

Eh...if a hypothetical "Milton County" contains Sandy Springs, I can imagine Milton either being grandfathered into or voting to remain part of MARTA. GA 400 traffic and the three Sandy Springs MARTA stations won't disappear simply because they're in a new county.

Plus, with an expansion up GA 400 already far along in the development process, I can't see Milton just saying "screw it" and cutting off all relations with MARTA.

Power wouldn't change. "Milton County" is serviced by Georgia Power, Sawnee EMC, and Cobb EMC, so unless Milton County decides to form its own power company and buy out the existing utilities' assets, power suppliers wouldn't change. Trash collection would either be provided by the county or outsourced to a private firm like Waste Management.

Not sure about the others...

- skbl17

[arjay57]

My question is, would recreating Milton put more of a burden on the city of Atlanta taxpayer?

So long as it's revenue neutral the folks up in Milton can do as they please.

[JC84]

Originally Posted by aries4118

You're liberal? Yes, and Ted Cruz's a socialist.

Thinking critically and personal responsibility are liberal characteristics too

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by JC84

Thinking critically and personal responsibility are liberal characteristics too

Sophomorically (mis-)labeling oneself as if trying to get table points in a high school cafeteria are also characteristics of someone with severe limitations.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

And what about MARTA? What about sewer and water and power? What about trash? What about fire and police and Grady and ambulance?

I know all this CAN be worked out, but I just don't see easy ways.

None of these are difficult. I don't like the idea of Milton County, but none of these are reasons not. Milton stays in MARTA and Grady as part of the deal. Sewer and water as well as ambulance are done the same. Power isn't done by the government. Trash, fire and police are probably done by the municipalities.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by primaltech

I live in North Fulton. And I work hard, and make my own money. And I also have had good luck in life.

You seem to have a very simplified worldview. Our reality is actually a whole lot more complicated and nuanced than Sean Hannity described it to you. The idea of welfare/safety net/redistribution is complicated in its effects and various benefits, some positive, some negative. The idea of fairness is also complex and difficult to pin down. Everyone was born into a different individual situation, with entirely different sets of circumstances and challenges, advantages, privileges, etc. White conservatives tend to not understand this.

Not to mention there are purely economic theory based reasons for why it's better for rich people to spread some of the wealth around, rather than hoard it all.

But, no, this particular topic in this thread is not about ideologies so much as it is about a metropolitan region, and how ours sucks because of all this kind of localized selfishness. North Fulton is already wealthy. The priority here should be what the effects would be on the greater region and its important and pressing needs, not some guy in Johns Creek who wants to upgrade from the 2012 Mercedes to the 2016, while families in South Fulton are trying to figure out how to afford Christmas dinner. Opportunities, education, culture, circumstances, the fact that not everyone can be a CEO, and someone has to run the cash register and clean the toilet. Do you understand these things?

The problem is that North Fulton gets short-changed on all the services. Its not about wealthy helping the poor. Its about the political power base in South Fulton not treating North Fulton fairly as well as the incompetence of the county. And somehow continuing to elect people like the thief that is the tax collector.