Workforce in Cumberland: Your worst fears are now being realized (Decatur: bus, commuter)

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Drive to urbanism, parking garages line the exterior of he development with all the focus on the interior, 'controllable' private street. Poor interaction with existing, surrounding development; it's basically a wall of parking garages surrounding the main, private street that Liberty media can have complete control over.

cqholt you have to start some where. It take a lot of projected over time to redevelop a edge city denser. From where it was this a huge step forward.


On the contrary the Cumberlasnd area is a edge city it isn't random place people just hope to develop more urban. There's a purpose and reason to do it. Urbanism is getting the residential back mix with employment area.

one of trade marks of sprawl is the drastic separation between employment area and residential. Density in the Cumberland area will help decrease the need for travel giving more options to live near work.

[primaltech]

Cumberland is an edge city in the suburbs, and therefore isn't failing when it's mostly cars oriented. It's supposed to be cars oriented- that's what an edge city is. Not a city at all.

Core in-town neighborhoods in the metro's core city like Midtown and Edgewood are failing when they're cars-oriented in design and character. Those are the areas that shouldn't be.

The most urban place in Cobb County should be Marietta, and, it is. That's the area that should be made even more urban. And Smyrna's core should be made to be more urban, compact, dense, walkable. And maybe Vinings around the village. But Cumberland was never intended or designed to be anything more than what it is- a primarily cars-based area where you can also walk. That said, as an employment area they do need a transit station.

[AtlJan]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Cumberland is an edge city in the suburbs, and therefore isn't failing when it's mostly cars oriented. It's supposed to be cars oriented- that's what an edge city is. Not a city at all.

Core in-town neighborhoods in the metro's core city like Midtown and Edgewood are failing when they're cars-oriented in design and character. Those are the areas that shouldn't be.

The most urban place in Cobb County should be Marietta, and, it is. That's the area that should be made even more urban. And Smyrna's core should be made to be more urban, compact, dense, walkable. And maybe Vinings around the village. But Cumberland was never intended or designed to be anything more than what it is- a primarily cars-based area where you can also walk. That said, as an employment area they do need a transit station.

The geography of Cumberland does not make it easy to be walkable either. It's very hilly.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

cqholt you have to start some where. It take a lot of projected over time to redevelop a edge city denser. From where it was this a huge step forward.


On the contrary the Cumberlasnd area is a edge city it isn't random place people just hope to develop more urban. There's a purpose and reason to do it. Urbanism is getting the residential back mix with employment area.

one of trade marks of sprawl is the drastic separation between employment area and residential. Density in the Cumberland area will help decrease the need for travel giving more options to live near work.

So they start by creating blank walls on the outside of the development, which will see more development? I honestly don't understand why they left those garages exposed, that could have been revenue generating apartments, with ground floor retail. Also, the lack of any integration with Cobb Pkwy.

[whodean]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So they start by creating blank walls on the outside of the development, which will see more development? I honestly don't understand why they left those garages exposed, that could have been revenue generating apartments, with ground floor retail. Also, the lack of any integration with Cobb Pkwy.

I agree with this, the external buildings should have engaged more.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So they start by creating blank walls on the outside of the development, which will see more development? I honestly don't understand why they left those garages exposed, that could have been revenue generating apartments, with ground floor retail.

I don't know why developers are so resistant to doing that but they do it all the time. Look at those parking decks at the Georgia Aquarium, for example.



https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7645...7i13312!8i6656

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I don't know why developers are so resistant to doing that but they do it all the time. Look at those parking decks at the Georgia Aquarium, for example.



https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7645...7i13312!8i6656

Yep, could have been apartments and much needed residents to Downtown.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Your not even responding to the commentary, your ignored what was said like it wasn't, and just responding.

The commentary said the CID were founded by the the community businesses to supported the interest of the community.

Then I showed you how much the CID is boasting STP and them stating the economics benefits.

So if there was "PR" it's from the Business community itself.

What I ignore is half-baked, media-spun ballyhoo, which is about all you've offered so far.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

What I ignore is half-baked, media-spun ballyhoo, which is about all you've offered so far.

nah

I posted the business community organization

You argument suppose to be the STP is against the business community when it's literally the business community The CID that lobbied and are boasting about it in the first place.

You couldn't respond at "the commentary" so you respond saying nothing.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So they start by creating blank walls on the outside of the development, which will see more development? I honestly don't understand why they left those garages exposed, that could have been revenue generating apartments, with ground floor retail. Also, the lack of any integration with Cobb Pkwy.

I agree with this

My point is you criticize it because you want Cobb and Cumberland to succeed.

Some posters here are doing it cause they want Cumberland to fail.