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Old 03-13-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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Apologist much there?
Frankly these right wing extremist groups don't need a "false flag" operation to accomplish that. They in and of themselves are revolting enough so as to accomplish that on their own.
Case in point the nazi's that marched in Charlottesville while chanting among other things, "Jews will not replace us", & "Russia is our friend."
tRUMP said that they were "fine people", in case you have forgotten the words of the divider-in-chief.
And unfortunately, right here at home, Georgia has had a very long history of tragic violence enacted against minority groups or convenient targets of the moment.
Let's hope that the culprits who spread the flyers are identified, whoever they are, and dealt with appropriately.

Explain to me the difference between the people who marched in Charlottesville and said "Jews will not replace us" to the recent speech that Louis Farrakhan gave. Are we to conclude that Louis Farrakhan is a right wing extremist?
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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What is unnecessary is another left wing organization spreading a progressive agenda.
Ahh, yes the progressive and socialist Patriot Front who also believes in punishing migrants and the "underclass." Makes sense!

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Old 03-13-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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Uhh no. The very story you provide shows that the victim didn't leave any "false flags" to try an pin it on a right wing group.

So we're still waiting on these so-called false flags planted by leftists that you seem to believe are more probable than a white supremacist group doing this, despite the fact that fear-mongering and violence of right wing groups have grown exponentially.
People on social media provided the false flags because the victim was dead and couldn't. How could you not understand that? I don't think the people who distributed the fliers are dead unless you know something I don't? I believe that white supremacists left extremist literature in Candler Park as much as I believe the KKK lynched someone in 2016 in Piedmont Park. Also, you might want to take about 2 minutes and actually research the group who left this literature. They aren't aligned to any political party.
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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People on social media provided the false flags because the victim was dead and couldn't. How could you not understand that? I don't think the people who distributed the fliers are dead unless you know something I don't? I believe that white supremacists left extremist literature in Candler Park as much as I believe the KKK lynched someone in 2016 in Piedmont Park. Also, you might want to take about 2 minutes and actually research the group who left this literature. They aren't aligned to any political party.
That is not analogous to this story. There were no "people on social media" needed to proliferate this message. There is physical paper with the message. Staring you right in the face in the news report. Right on people's doorsteps. With the group's logo. A group known to be a white nationalist, racist group. Why do you prefer to dismiss that?
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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That is not analogous to this story. There were no "people on social media" needed to proliferate this message. There is physical paper with the message. Staring you right in the face in the news report. Right on people's doorsteps. With the group's logo. A group known to be a white nationalist, racist group. Why do you prefer to dismiss that?
You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. I am not dismissing anything. What I am dismissing is there is no reason for this group to distribute material in Candler Park of all places. Just like I knew the very second I saw it on the news that the KKK didn't hang someone in Piedmont Park of all places in 2016 Atlanta. It makes no sense. I also suggest you research that group and who their beliefs align with. I already gave you one example. I know there are right wing extremists in this country. I know there are left wing extremists in this country. I know there are other extremists like Louis Farrakhan for example. It isn't based solely on political identity. Unless you are willing to argue that Louis Farrakhan is a right wing extremist?
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. I am not dismissing anything. What I am dismissing is there is no reason for this group to distribute material in Candler Park of all places. Just like I knew the very second I saw it on the news that the KKK didn't hang someone in Piedmont Park of all places in 2016 Atlanta. It makes no sense. I also suggest you research that group and who their beliefs align with. I already gave you one example. I know there are right wing extremists in this country. I know there are left wing extremists in this country. I know there are other extremists like Louis Farrakhan for example. It isn't based solely on political identity. Unless you are willing to argue that Louis Farrakhan is a right wing extremist?
So you deny the Patriot Front actually distributed this. That's all I need to know. The rest is deflection. Carry on.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Explain to me the difference between the people who marched in Charlottesville and said "Jews will not replace us" to the recent speech that Louis Farrakhan gave. Are we to conclude that Louis Farrakhan is a right wing extremist?

Farrakahn is certainly not a leftist. If you knew anything factual about him &/or the Nation of Islam groups in the U.S., you would already know that.
Farrakahn is an extremist of his own own making & is capable of saying vile things but he's far from being a leftist.
In your statement, you seem to be making the error of conflating his skin color with leftist political sentiment which is totally inaccurate. I mean seriously... How often do you hear of leftist Islamic religious sects either here or abroad?
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:13 PM
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Those groups may disagree with you.
Give me some evidence.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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So you deny the Patriot Front actually distributed this. That's all I need to know. The rest is deflection. Carry on.
There is no way to know. It isn't a denial as much as I am saying not likely just like I knew it wasn't likely the KKK was riding around on horses in Piedmont Park with torches hanging people in 2016. But, idiots actually believed that as well until the Mayor had to actually squash it and make a statement on how absurd the idea was.

Patriot Front also doesn't align politically with what you are trying to tell me they do either.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Farrakahn is certainly not a leftist. If you knew anything factual about him &/or the Nation of Islam groups in the U.S., you would already know that.
Farrakahn is an extremist of his own own making & is capable of saying vile things but he's far from being a leftist.
In your statement, you seem to be making the error of conflating his skin color with leftist political sentiment which is totally inaccurate. I mean seriously... How often do you hear of leftist Islamic religious sects either here or abroad?
Where did I say he was a leftist? I actually had Farrakhan listed separate from right and left wing extremists in another post. Looks like you missed that. In fact here is my direct quote from the post #45:

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I know there are right wing extremists in this country. I know there are left wing extremists in this country. I know there are other extremists like Louis Farrakhan for example
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