Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Georgia > Atlanta
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: ATL
4,688 posts, read 8,022,098 times
Reputation: 1804

Advertisements

The Marietta Daily Journal - Leaders Light rail could happen by 2019
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
12,380 posts, read 26,856,553 times
Reputation: 4581
2019? Talk about the south being south......A Project of that size would only take 4 years form paper to opening up here. I'm starting to feel bad for you guys down there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
7,887 posts, read 17,195,472 times
Reputation: 3706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
2019? Talk about the south being south......A Project of that size would only take 4 years form paper to opening up here. I'm starting to feel bad for you guys down there.
Yeah, just like the Archer Ave and 63rd St subway extensions in NYC. What did those take, almost 20 years for a few track miles?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
8,486 posts, read 15,002,372 times
Reputation: 7333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
2019? Talk about the south being south......A Project of that size would only take 4 years form paper to opening up here. I'm starting to feel bad for you guys down there.
What in the world are you talking about?


9 years isn't that long to build a light rail system scratch (or any type of system), only thing is that the funding for this won't be available unitl 2013, so it's really only 6 years.

And what are you talking about "a project of that size would only take 4 years from paper to opening up there"? I can not think of any system that has come up that fast. Especially one that will be 13 miles long.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
8,486 posts, read 15,002,372 times
Reputation: 7333
Quote:
Originally Posted by neil0311 View Post
Yeah, just like the Archer Ave and 63rd St subway extensions in NYC. What did those take, almost 20 years for a few track miles?
LOL, for real. Granted, building a subway line takes longer, but how about the Second Ave line that has been in the "planning" stage for 80 years. It was finally approved 4 years ago. The boring machine still hasn't shown up...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 09:56 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
12,380 posts, read 26,856,553 times
Reputation: 4581
Quote:
Originally Posted by neil0311 View Post
Yeah, just like the Archer Ave and 63rd St subway extensions in NYC. What did those take, almost 20 years for a few track miles?
Corruption and other things. But aside form the 2nd Avenue Subway , NYC is currently moving very fast in Constructing things. By 2018 we should have 2 New Tunnels and Deep Stations. The Hudson Tunnel & New Deep Penn station is in the first stages of construction. The New East River Tunnels and Grand Central Terminal connection should open in 2014. Both will serve 120-150,000+ daily and transform the Region on both sides of the Hudson. Many people see the Northeast having a Euro Rail / Transit system outside the Bos-Wash Corridor & in the Bos-Wash Corridor a Japanese type system. In about 20 years with all the planned system restorations and expansions. As for Atlanta , it looks very bleak and much of the South. You guys really need to jump on the Transit and Regional Rail express and find ways on doing these projects faster, or face terrible consequences. Your Population is already straining your Freeways and Atlanta is a great example on how adding lanes doesn't solve the problem. It makes it worse. If its that bad now , whats it going to be like in 20 years?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 10:02 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
12,380 posts, read 26,856,553 times
Reputation: 4581
Quote:
Originally Posted by waronxmas View Post
LOL, for real. Granted, building a subway line takes longer, but how about the Second Ave line that has been in the "planning" stage for 80 years. It was finally approved 4 years ago. The boring machine still hasn't shown up...

YouTube - TBM Cutterhead Arrives
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 10:06 PM
 
Location: ATL
4,688 posts, read 8,022,098 times
Reputation: 1804
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
2019? Talk about the south being south......A Project of that size would only take 4 years form paper to opening up here. I'm starting to feel bad for you guys down there.

I actually feel bad for you guys. We dont have to pay $8 to get onto any tolls here. Our housing is cheaper, weather is better, less potholes in the streets, less crime, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 10:07 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
8,486 posts, read 15,002,372 times
Reputation: 7333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
Corruption and other things. But aside form the 2nd Avenue Subway , NYC is currently moving very fast in Constructing things. By 2018 we should have 2 New Tunnels and Deep Stations. The Hudson Tunnel & New Deep Penn station is in the first stages of construction. The New East River Tunnels and Grand Central Terminal connection should open in 2014. Both will serve 120-150,000+ daily and transform the Region on both sides of the Hudson. Many people see the Northeast having a Euro Rail / Transit system outside the Bos-Wash Corridor & in the Bos-Wash Corridor a Japanese type system. In about 20 years with all the planned system restorations and expansions. As for Atlanta , it looks very bleak and much of the South. You guys really need to jump on the Transit and Regional Rail express and find ways on doing these projects faster, or face terrible consequences. Your Population is already straining your Freeways and Atlanta is a great example on how adding lanes doesn't solve the problem. It makes it worse. If its that bad now , whats it going to be like in 20 years?
I'm starting to think you just don't care to research the statements you make. The public transportation situation is anything but bleak, quite the opposite actually.

The LRT system in the article is only one of the projects that will be built in the next decade. This all thanks to the Transportation bill the Georgia Legislature approved a few weeks ago. It will provide close to $800 million dollars of tax revenue each year.

House, Senate pass transportation bill *| ajc.com

So we're going to go from this:



To this over the next 15 to 20 years:

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2010, 10:08 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
9,191 posts, read 33,889,276 times
Reputation: 5311
1st thing: Folks, the topic is about the Cobb system - not to compare it to NYC tracks. So please keep it on topic.

With that being said, businesses have said that Atlanta's traffic and transit issues are a concern now when thinking about location here, which no doubt is the only real reason some of the suburban areas are now looking at rail. IMO, a light rail system along 41 would have the same issues that the system in L.A. has - lots of car to train collisions and stalled trains in traffic. Light rail works in SOME situations, but not all.

"PRT" (personal rapid transit) systems along busy areas are a possible solution. If they had PRT systems that looped around the Cobb/Galleria business section and the Marietta area, with a third looping around the Kennesaw business district, this would help eliminate a lot of local drive-around traffic from people who skip around the immediate areas day-to-day running errands, business people in the area, hotel guests visiting local spots, etc. The three PRT areas could be linked together with a BRT system or less expensive modular monorail type system.

Link PRT:
YouTube - ULTra PRT sustainable transit

Link to a company that has an innovative alternative to light rail: http://www.megarail.com/pdf/MGMT-6.pdf (2.5 mg pdf file).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Georgia > Atlanta

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:48 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top