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Why do some people despise so much Tradition ? are they ashamed of their own History? traditionally Oz and NZ (and CND) have been Dominion of the Crown/ Commonwealth, they are parliamentary democracies derived from the English Bill Of Rights, a grand anglo-saxon tradition (read Habeas Corpus), what would a "Republic" bring to these countries: nothing, nada. Why ape the USA and France who have each a different History ?
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Why do some people despise so much Tradition ? are they ashamed of their own History? traditionally Oz and NZ (and CND) have been Dominion of the Crown/ Commonwealth, they are parliamentary democracies derived from the English Bill Of Rights, a grand anglo-saxon tradition (read Habeas Corpus), what would a "Republic" bring to these countries: nothing, nada. Why ape the USA and France who have each a different History ?
Most of us don't DESPISE the monarchy, we just feel it isn't really useful or relevant for Australia. I think the British Crown would give us our full blessings if we did decide on that path. It's not like we're rejecting them; I'm sure we'll still have strong links with Britain regardless, because of ancestry and culture, but it's a statement that we're able to stand on our own two feet, and don't need the Queen or King being head.
I could ask you Americans the same question. Why did you 'despise' Britain so much you rebelled and had to declare independence?
Was a rude little turd, gave her the cold shoulder. While she was talking to him, he just shuffled papers for no reason. Body language said it all. Came across like a prissy little snot.
This whole Health takeover thing is just a distraction from the mess his mob has created of just about everything. Convenient timing eh? The catastrophic debacle over something that should have been so simple - putting insulation in ceilings. Notice how that's off the front burner.
it's a statement that we're able to stand on our own two feet, and don't need the Queen or King being head.
Sad that you think like that, the notion of having a Queen or King is so romantic for me who lives in a Republic, where the head of state is only a politician-nothing to dream about,or poetic about it, especially nowadays!Think about your children, children are spontaneaously monarchists!
Was a rude little turd, gave her the cold shoulder. While she was talking to him, he just shuffled papers for no reason. Body language said it all. Came across like a prissy little snot.
This whole Health takeover thing is just a distraction from the mess his mob has created of just about everything. Convenient timing eh? The catastrophic debacle over something that should have been so simple - putting insulation in ceilings. Notice how that's off the front burner.
Ok i am all for a republic, but what sort of role would a president (if they are given that title) play in any sort of new model? Our head of state needs to given a more relevent role rather than an overpaid beaurcrate who primary role seems to be to host tea parties, while sitting around waiting for a once in a century constitutional crisis to comes a long.
It would be interesting to see the resluts of a poll showing how many australians acutally know who Quinten Bryce is?
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it's a statement that we're able to stand on our own two feet, and don't need the Queen or King being head.
Sad that you think like that, the notion of having a Queen or King is so romantic for me who lives in a Republic, where the head of state is only a politician-nothing to dream about,or poetic about it, especially nowadays!Think about your children, children are spontaneaously monarchists!
Nice thought, pigeonhole, and I suppose the reason we still have the monarchy is because many still think like you. Actually, as long as Queen Liz is there I don't mind the monarchy so much. She doesn't really have much to do with us - except visiting about once every decade or so and sending cards to 100 year olds - so it's symbolic. Don't know why our day to day political system need be complicated by it, though. And as Ozgal says I'll have no sentimental attachment when King Charlie ascends to the throne!
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Was a rude little turd, gave her the cold shoulder. While she was talking to him, he just shuffled papers for no reason. Body language said it all. Came across like a prissy little snot.
This whole Health takeover thing is just a distraction from the mess his mob has created of just about everything. Convenient timing eh? The catastrophic debacle over something that should have been so simple - putting insulation in ceilings. Notice how that's off the front burner.
Sounds rather typical of him. He does need to be brought down to earth, imo. I don't know who I'll vote in the next election (neither of the big wigs, I think). I have generally voted Labor but this government could have been much better.
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