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Old 05-07-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A RWD car will do just fine in snow with the right tires. If a car is having trouble making it up snowy onramps, then I'm willing to put money down that they are running the wrong tires.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I've driven mostly Hondas in my life but stepped up scale currently to a BMW 750I. The Beemer will spoil you and you will no longer be able to be happy with a Honda or Toyota. It's the level of smoothness, quiet, effortless accleeration, incredibly comfortable seats, high level of quality of all materials and surfaces, the ride...okay maybe there is a bit of look at me and what I can afford but that is far secondary for me....I love the car itself.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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A RWD car will do just fine in snow with the right tires. If a car is having trouble making it up snowy onramps, then I'm willing to put money down that they are running the wrong tires.
Say the guy from California. There's a reason FWD cars sell more here then anywhere else.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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When I was a full time snowboard bum I drove a Miata (RWD & no abs or traction control) to the slopes every day for a season. We lived in the mountains about 15 mins from the resort and when there was snow on the ground I would be passing 99% of cars on the road - I'm not exaggerating, people just drive slow when there's snow. And this was before the WRX came to the USA.

In fact I distinctly remember making it to Loveland on an epic powder day only to be told they were closed because there was too much snow.

I did have very good studded snow tires on all four wheels and all the roads I needed to go on were plowed, so ground clearance wasn't an issue.

RWD does have it's limitations, but it's also a ton of fun in the snow.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:45 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Camry and Accord far too bland

I find the Toyotas and Hondas extremely boring, generic vehicles. Just too damn bland for my tastes. Maybe if I was in my 20s, right out of college.

Lexus is my brand of choice, but lately I've been eyeing that BMW 7-series again. Absolutely beautiful vehicles, and incredibly built.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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when a much cheaper Accord or Camry provides the same comfortable ride, simliar quality, and much better milage and maybe even last much longer while saving tons of money? Especially in these days when an Acura/Lexus/BMW don't have the prestige it used to have.
Why pay more for private school? Same books.

Why pay more for 5 star hotel? Same bed.

Why pay more for bigger house and lawn? You still have a roof over your head.

Beyond the basic attributes, people value and want different intangibles. My friend who has a Mac setup may wonder why I'd pay $100 for jeans. I wonder why he double price for computers. Different priorities.

Furthermore I disagree with your insinuation that Honda = BMW. Unless you mean a Honda maxed with options ans a bare bones 3 series. And even then, it's the bells and whistles that'd be similar, not the ride itself. Which brings me to the third point.

People that make threads like yours assume that the one and only reason to get a car is "to get from point A to point B". But some want so much more from their car experience.

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Old 05-08-2013, 06:20 AM
 
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^^^ this...
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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when a much cheaper Accord or Camry provides the same comfortable ride, simliar quality, and much better milage and maybe even last much longer while saving tons of money? Especially in these days when an Acura/Lexus/BMW don't have the prestige it used to have.

I have a 2003 Lexus GS430 that has over 147,000 miles on it. There is nothing that Honda or Toyota manufacturers that even comes close to my 32-valve terror. Nothing. I average 19mpg around town and 26mpg on the highway, and in the last 4 years, I have spent $983 on maintenance, $750 of which was the timing belt service at 90,000 miles.

The scary part is that when I bought my Lexus, a comparable Honda/Toyota was only $2,000 cheaper, but didn't have the same level of options. My car literally has every single option that was available that year, and believe me, those options add to the pleasure of ownership without impacting the cost of ownership.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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People that make threads like yours assume that the one and only reason to get a car is "to get from point A to point B". But some want so much more from their car experience.
And they assume that no one can afford such things. My boss has a $850/mo payment on his Audi S5. But his paychecks are like $6GRAND biweekly. His $850 car payment is close to the same percentage of his income that my $350 payment is. (almost)

He makes 12 GRAND a month. He can buy anything he wants.
And trust me when I tell you that S5 is not comparable to anything Honda or Toyota make...
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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People that make threads like yours assume that the one and only reason to get a car is "to get from point A to point B". But some want so much more from their car experience.

Why do I see so many Mercedes/BMW/Lexus owners driving so slow on the freeway? If paying extra money for the extra performance, why not use it? I thought the main reason for buying a big BMW or Mercedes is to be able to drive at speeds above 100mph. I do not see anybody doing this. Almost as bad as buying a car with a V8 engine to drive 55mph.
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