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67% of the nations energy comes fossil fuels and the greenies just found large golf cart that will likely be plugged in when the sun goes down.
Exactly! It's only a "feel good" yuppie mobile with no,zippo,none environmental benefits to it. Batteries that use way more energy to create and the waste from old ones? Don't even go there.
Then I guess electricity just appears out of thin air in the wires to their homes, not from any fossil fuels.
Except Trsla is rated unreliable by Consumer Reports. Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt get much higher ratings in reliability. Tesla only makes EVs and does it worse than companies that make them as a side gig.
Yes, the cars from the first two production years were quite terrible. They are often plagued with problems. I think it is quite typical for new advanced car models.
Yes, the cars from the first two production years were quite terrible. They are often plagued with problems. I think it is quite typical for new advanced car models.
True, but so was the Volt and Leaf. CR made it a point to point out out the 2014's and 15's weren't fairing much better.,
I see electric cars and solar power going hand-in-hand. Currently, paid 100% upfront, the average home solar installation costs $20-25K. But SolarCity and others are looking to bring the installation cost down to $10-15K over the next 3-5 years. Solar battery solutions are also falling in price. A year or two ago, it cost $10-15K to add battery capability to a solar installation, to leverage solar power after the sun goes down. With Tesla's new solar battery back, it costs an extra $5K. And Tesla, SolarCity, etc. aim to bring the added cost of a battery to $3K or less. With that battery, the solar power generated during the day will charge your Tesla at night.
Who knows, with continued improvements in solar panels and battery integration, we could see a Tesla in 5-7 years with an option for a solar roof to supplement range and/or reduce charging needs.
67% of the nations energy comes fossil fuels and the greenies just found large golf cart that will likely be plugged in when the sun goes down.
While true, this electricity is almost enirely generated from domestic sources.
No payment to the Middle East required.
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Originally Posted by jimj
Exactly! It's only a "feel good" yuppie mobile with no,zippo,none environmental benefits to it. Batteries that use way more energy to create and the waste from old ones? Don't even go there.
Then I guess electricity just appears out of thin air in the wires to their homes, not from any fossil fuels.
I wouldn't say there is no benefit. About 33% (and growing) of U.S. electricity is generated from sources that are far more environmentally friendly than burning gasoline.
I see electric cars and solar power going hand-in-hand. Currently, paid 100% upfront, the average home solar installation costs $20-25K. But SolarCity and others are looking to bring the installation cost down to $10-15K over the next 3-5 years. Solar battery solutions are also falling in price. A year or two ago, it cost $10-15K to add battery capability to a solar installation, to leverage solar power after the sun goes down. With Tesla's new solar battery back, it costs an extra $5K. And Tesla, SolarCity, etc. aim to bring the added cost of a battery to $3K or less. With that battery, the solar power generated during the day will charge your Tesla at night.
Who knows, with continued improvements in solar panels and battery integration, we could see a Tesla in 5-7 years with an option for a solar roof to supplement range and/or reduce charging needs.
I find it odd that people think they can charge their Tesla with solar power. If you drive your Tesla during the day, solar power isn't charging anything till you get home in the evening. So you're basically saying the solar panels charge your home batteries which in turn discharge into your Tesla after sunset. Of course that's after taking a loss in energy in the home battery charging process and the loss in charging the Tesla. In the winter during long periods of low sunlight and clouds, I have no idea what you're thinking will happen. You'll have both a cold house and dead car.
If you haven't noticed, Solar City is up against the ropes. Their income is 100% dependent on fickle subsidies. They package their income in the form of solar bonds which they sell to investors. It's a financing scheme not a solar company.
Who knows, with continued improvements in solar panels and battery integration, we could see a Tesla in 5-7 years with an option for a solar roof to supplement range and/or reduce charging needs.
I will only be a "hater" if EVs/autonomous vehicles in general have any negative effects on those who still want to enjoy human controlled gas/diesel powered vehicles.
I've heard about higher tech roads that would allow EVs to charge while in operation, but solar panels sound like a better idea as long as it's sunny out. Until an EV can be charged in the amount of time it takes for me to fill up with gas, I'm not sure I want in.
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