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Old 04-01-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I feel the same if one wants to buy a Tesla, why buy it without driving it & seeing it? What if you don't like the way it drives or you don't fit or the seats hurt your arse on long trips?

You realize that you go to a Telsa boutique store where they have a couple for people to sit in and even drive, then you order it to your specs and they deliver it to you.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Wow this car is ugly... thought it would look better. and having no grill makes it worse


There's no radiator. Why would it need a grille?


Personally I'd love to sign up with a vinyl company and make stick on grilles for them in different shapes...
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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I'd argue that having a grille on an electric car with no engine or radiator makes no sense. It's just a fake hole that does nothing in that case.
But it does have a radiator. It has a battery coolant system as well as a standard AC condenser. Maybe something else to cool the motor itself.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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I wouldn't say they squandered anything given that the Model S and X are paying for the Model 3's development. Without the first two cars higher margins we probably would have never seen the Model 3 from Tesla.
It's more like the tax credit should have had a limit on the price of a car. The way it's written, Bugatti could make an electric supercar charge a million dollars for it and you still get a tax break.
The Model 3 should have made immediately after the S. The Model X was a complete waste of resources.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Has nothing to do with Americans. People are lining up worldwide to place their deposit down. Yes, you could put your deposit down online, but there is a sense of being a part of something and being around people who share the same passion as you do.
More importantly, lining up allowed you to make your reservation earlier which potentially could save you up to $7,500 depending on where your reservation lands. It all just depends on how fast Tesla can pump out the Model 3 and when delivery starts. Phase out will begin right around when the Model 3 hits, maybe before that depending on delays. Tesla doesn't currently have capacity to pump out cars in numbers. Figure if you don't take delivery in the first six months, you'll be getting 50% of the credit. After 12 months you won't be getting any credit. Might be a bit longer but once the Model 3 starts being delivered it's going to push Tesla over the 200,000 unit cap as they'll be very close to the cap already.

Basically, people line up at WalMart to save, what, $200 on a crappy TV for Black Friday. It shouldn't come as any surprise at all that they'll line up to potentially save $7,500 on a car. I mean, figure Tesla manages to triple its manufacturing capacity from around 50,000 to 150,000 in a year. Big if, but say they do. They'll always produce the S and X before the 3 as they're more profitable. That means anyone ordering now is most likely not going to get any tax credit as it will take more than a year to go through the backlog.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Wow this car is ugly... thought it would look better. and having no grill makes it worse
No cars are made with grills. You can pick one up at store. They make camping grills that fold down very compact so it wouldn't be an issue fitting it in the car. I suppose if you think that would make it look better you could attach it to the exterior somehow although that's a very odd look.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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I dont get the appeal, at all.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NY/LA
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I'd argue that having a grille on an electric car with no engine or radiator makes no sense. It's just a fake hole that does nothing in that case.
I agree that it doesn't need a grille, but the way they sculpted that flat nose makes it look like something is missing. At least in CA, I'm guessing some of that empty space will be taken up by a license plate.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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But it does have a radiator. It has a battery coolant system as well as a standard AC condenser. Maybe something else to cool the motor itself.
That's not surprising.

The X did away with the ornamental grille as well. Even on the Model S it's mostly just a black piece of plastic. Visually it looks more like a grille on a conventional car but it doesn't need much airflow so they block most of it off. The X dropped that look and the 3 is a continuation of that. This isn't a gasoline engine where 70% of energy is just waste heat hence much less need for large radiator or grille.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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But it does have a radiator. It has a battery coolant system as well as a standard AC condenser. Maybe something else to cool the motor itself.
That slit at the bottom of the bumper is adequate enough to cool the batteries and other components. There is no traditional radiator and electrics don't put out nearly as much waste heat as ICE's.
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