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The 1978, 454 engine produced about 230 horsepower. That's less than a modern Honda Accord.
And yet, according to Motor trend and Hot Rod magazines, that pickup was the second fastest American produced vehicle available in the U.S., next to the Corvette.
Wrong. You're spewing nonsense based on antiquated preconceived notions. Let me guess - you're one of those geezers who thinks 60s muscle cars were the epitome of automotive performance?
Facts:
In the F150, the 5.0-liter V8 makes 385 horsepower at 5750 rpm and 387 ft-lb of torque at 3850 rpm
The 3.5 EcoBoost V6 makes 365 horsepower at 5000 rpm and 420 pound-feet at 2500 rpm.
That's a huge low-end torque advantage for the V6.
Even the tiny 2.7 makes 325hp at 5750 rpm and 375 ft-lb of torque at 3000 rpm. Digest that for a bit: only 12 ft-lb of torque less than the 5.0, but at 850 fewer rpm. So much for your "better low end torque" proclamation.
Wrong. You're spewing nonsense based on antiquated preconceived notions. Let me guess - you're one of those geezers who thinks 60s muscle cars were the epitome of automotive performance?
Facts:
In the F150, the 5.0-liter V8 makes 385 horsepower at 5750 rpm and 387 ft-lb of torque at 3850 rpm
The 3.5 EcoBoost V6 makes 365 horsepower at 5000 rpm and 420 pound-feet at 2500 rpm.
That's a huge low-end torque advantage for the V6.
Even the tiny 2.7 makes 325hp at 5750 rpm and 375 ft-lb of torque at 3000 rpm. Digest that for a bit: only 12 ft-lb of torque less than the 5.0, but at 850 fewer rpm. So much for your "better low end torque" proclamation.
LOL try again I'm 29 and a Ford certified tech who's seeing the issues of the ecojunk roll into the shop daily.
I've replaced 1 5.0 short block under warranty due to a bad oil leak from an improperly machined crankshaft that seized up tighter than a drum. The 5.0 has been mostly issue free. Where as the ecojunk was having massive failures both early on and through its life span.
Being diesel certified and turbos the new thing, us diesel techs were getting ecoboosts because they had turbos and the car shop techs were baffled by turbos.
Cracked plugs.
Overly efficient charge air coolers that would collect condensation then ingest water under wot
Turbo feed and drain lines rotting and leaking oil.
Turbo failures mixing coolant and oil and wrecking bearings.
LOL try again I'm 29 and a Ford certified tech who's seeing the issues of the ecojunk roll into the shop daily.
I've replaced 1 5.0 short block under warranty due to a bad oil leak from an improperly machined crankshaft that seized up tighter than a drum. The 5.0 has been mostly issue free. Where as the ecojunk was having massive failures both early on and through its life span.
Being diesel certified and turbos the new thing, us diesel techs were getting ecoboosts because they had turbos and the car shop techs were baffled by turbos.
Cracked plugs.
Overly efficient charge air coolers that would collect condensation then ingest water under wot
Turbo feed and drain lines rotting and leaking oil.
Turbo failures mixing coolant and oil and wrecking bearings.
2.7s popping head gaskets.
Where did I take issue with your assertion about reliability? Let me help: I didn't. You said the 5.0 has more low-end torque than the EB V6s. It doesn't. Empirical data proves it. 5 minutes behind the wheel verifies it.
Also - and you should know this - there are many, many more EB powered vehicles out there than there are Coyote 5.0s. Perhaps this may explain why you see more failures. Duh.
I've been in involved in the Ecoboost online community from almost the beginning 7 years ago. There are no "massive", systemic issues with any of these motors. Known issues? Absolutely? Epic, common, failures? Nope. I do recall some issues with the Coyote 5.0 in high performance applications - apparently it doesn't take well to modding. Also, I wonder why Ford chose to equipped their flagship super car with an Ecoboost engine?
This thread, and others, show that you have a very old school mentality when it comes to cars. You don't like forced induction, EFI, or any technology that wasn't around 50 years ago. Time to get with the program. Small displacement, forced induction engines and EVs/Hybrids (I can't wait to here your opinions of those) are the future. Get over it.
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So you pop the hood and all you see is plastic covering the engine. The dealership emails me if it’s time for service. My cars computer transmits info about the performance of the vehicle. If my tire pressure is low, the car informs me. I know it’s a V8, has turbos, over 500hp, and it’s fast. I will never work on the car.
Amen brother. I have an older CL65 and other than the plaque with the name of the engine builder everything is covered in plastic. Took off the many covers and the engine is a beauty. Tried to put the covers back on and the little plastic latches don't pop into place. Probably need some sort of custom MB tool for that.
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