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Old 08-06-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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Best deal? They hold value according to dealers but sales pitch too, as ALL cars driven off lot when new -- lose some value, no? Ok, best to go 2018 or leftover '17 or older like 16 or 15? How far back would you NOT go, as its too old to be worth it? Thx
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Old 08-06-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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The only car that somehow managed to dodge depreciation is Toyota FJ Cruiser.
Otherwise, Ms. D. will hit you hard the very moment you signed the paper.
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Old 08-06-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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It is up to you as to what you feel is the price you are willing to pay. If dealers are not willing to take a decent amount off a slightly used one, then go new.
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Old 08-06-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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It is up to you as to what you feel is the price you are willing to pay. If dealers are not willing to take a decent amount off a slightly used one, then go new.
Summed up greatly.

Too many variables for proper determination on some forum.
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Old 08-06-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Best deal? They hold value according to dealers but sales pitch too, as ALL cars driven off lot when new -- lose some value, no? Ok, best to go 2018 or leftover '17 or older like 16 or 15? How far back would you NOT go, as its too old to be worth it? Thx
You want to prevent some depreciation? Don't buy a manual transmission....

Otherwise, impossible to answer your question without knowing the actual price differences between those options you mentioned. A new 2017 should be at least $500-$1,000 cheaper than a new 2018 for that one to make sense IMO. Used should be even cheaper, of course...
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:38 PM
 
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Well, I'd rather not a car used by smoker or beaten/driven hard early as inlightly (yes, sure they claim, haha). I know you take hit as it drives new off lot. But dealer here in AZ says Subaru's hold real close value for yrs.

Also, manual is harder to find (Outbacks quit them yrs ago) & I'm oldschool so want a Forester now instead, as no way a new Outback is manual anymore.

So, needle in haystak is my prob. They can order one from somewhere in country yet of a leftover 17 (matching my specs) orI can go wild & buy a new 'off the line 18' manual Forester?

Soon all Subaru's will go auto thus manual will become a hot item, I think. For me it is better gas miles, less hassle & $ should tranny go, better control in bad weather, etc.

Some folk hate sticks but I have driven 'em since I was 16 mostly -- & now well over 50 -- so do the math.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:22 PM
 
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Well, I'd rather not a car used by smoker or beaten/driven hard early as inlightly (yes, sure they claim, haha). I know you take hit as it drives new off lot. But dealer here in AZ says Subaru's hold real close value for yrs.

Also, manual is harder to find (Outbacks quit them yrs ago) & I'm oldschool so want a Forester now instead, as no way a new Outback is manual anymore.

So, needle in haystak is my prob. They can order one from somewhere in country yet of a leftover 17 (matching my specs) orI can go wild & buy a new 'off the line 18' manual Forester?

Soon all Subaru's will go auto thus manual will become a hot item, I think. For me it is better gas miles, less hassle & $ should tranny go, better control in bad weather, etc.

Some folk hate sticks but I have driven 'em since I was 16 mostly -- & now well over 50 -- so do the math.
I have never understood the "when they stop making a particular widget it'll be a hot item" theory. I generally find that to be false. The aren't making them anymore because hardly anyone wants them....so even after they are gone they aren't going to be any more popular, you know?

We've already seen manuals cut from a number of products already, and in each case the resale values of the manuals left are NOT going up relative to their automatic counterparts. In fact it's worse. You have such a small number of people who are willing to buy one and I know some dealers who now refuse to even take them on trade unless it's a Mustang or Vette, etc.
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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Definitely would help if you would put where you lived and your profile ... a Forester in Colorado and a Forester in South Florida have totally different resale values. When I was looking at one for a relative in the Summer of 2013, I could get a 14 XT for about $27,000 plus taxes registration, etc. ... that was about $2,500 off of sticker. A 2011 or 2012 with 30,000 miles was going to be $22,000 or $23,000, not worth the small amount of savings, so purchased the 2013. When the 2014 (with about 52,000 miles) was totaled in an accident the insurance payoff was in excess of $22,000, so it kept its value pretty darn well.

Currently the 17s have 0% financing for 48 months while the 18s financing charge is ... maybe 1.8%
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:19 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Manuals will not become a 'Hot Item', tho many prefer them... majority of buyers will want Auto...

I would buy the manual and NEVER sell it Depreciation is then ... not an issue

my daily driver is 41 yrs old (and is a manual).
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:53 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Drive it first before you make a determination. I test drove a manual Forester and it's not the most stellar gearbox in the world. I lost track of the number of times I shifted from 2-5 by mistake, and had to try again because suddenly I had no power. Other than that, the interior was pretty spartan and cheap, you are paying for the AWD drivetrain and the passenger/cargo space.
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