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Old 02-08-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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all good but not for everyone:
we moved back into the city, nice house, close to everything but these are not going to fit into the 1960's size garage.
needless struggle driving narrow alley ways, city parking.
some things are walkable but most trips are <4 miles.

i want t an EV version of a Honda ACty 4x4.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Well lots oof people bought full-size pickups last year so GM made allot of money and now the hourly workers are getting a $10,700 profit shareing check so there’s allot of happy employees and GM has also found a 1,000 jobs at other GM plants for the people at the car plants they are closing.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Heavy duty: Detroit's 'Big Three' automakers roll out biggest pickups this year
https://www.clickondetroit.com/autom...kups-this-year
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"..Fiat Chrysler’s Ram brand started this year’s contest, unveiling a new heavy-duty pickup in January. The 2019 Ram, which goes on sale in April, has an optional 400-horsepower, 6.7-liter six-cylinder diesel with 1,000 pound-feet of torque. The company says it can pull more than 35,000 pounds and carry 7,680 pounds in its bed. Torque, a measure of rotational force, is a big deal for buyers because it’s needed especially when pulling trailers up big hills.



General Motors’ GMC brand was next with the heavy-duty Sierra. Its 6.6-liter diesel has 445 horsepower and 910 pound feet of torque. Towing and payload capacities haven’t been released yet, but Phil Brook, GMC’s vice president of marketing, says the truck can tow more than 30,000 pounds.

Ford is unveiling a new Super Duty version of the F-Series Tuesday and putting it on display at the Chicago auto show. It didn’t release power numbers either but said the new truck, due out in the fall, will offer the company’s highest-ever towing and payload ratings. Ford also added a larger 7.3-liter V8 gasoline engine to its lineup, joining a smaller V8 and a 6.7-liter diesel. The larger gasoline V8 gives people more towing ability at a cost lower than a diesel, said Todd Eckert, Ford’s truck marketing manager....."


For people who actually need a new vehicle with these capabilities, this offers them some options.

Okay.

But unless you're a farmer, construction contractor/worker or some similar occupation, how is this relevant to the average person's everyday needs and why would they buy one of these?
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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"..Fiat Chrysler’s Ram brand started this year’s contest, unveiling a new heavy-duty pickup in January. The 2019 Ram, which goes on sale in April, has an optional 400-horsepower, 6.7-liter six-cylinder diesel with 1,000 pound-feet of torque. The company says it can pull more than 35,000 pounds and carry 7,680 pounds in its bed. Torque, a measure of rotational force, is a big deal for buyers because it’s needed especially when pulling trailers up big hills.



General Motors’ GMC brand was next with the heavy-duty Sierra. Its 6.6-liter diesel has 445 horsepower and 910 pound feet of torque. Towing and payload capacities haven’t been released yet, but Phil Brook, GMC’s vice president of marketing, says the truck can tow more than 30,000 pounds.

Ford is unveiling a new Super Duty version of the F-Series Tuesday and putting it on display at the Chicago auto show. It didn’t release power numbers either but said the new truck, due out in the fall, will offer the company’s highest-ever towing and payload ratings. Ford also added a larger 7.3-liter V8 gasoline engine to its lineup, joining a smaller V8 and a 6.7-liter diesel. The larger gasoline V8 gives people more towing ability at a cost lower than a diesel, said Todd Eckert, Ford’s truck marketing manager....."


For people who actually need a new vehicle with these capabilities, this offers them some options.

Okay.

But unless you're a farmer, construction contractor/worker or some similar occupation, how is this relevant to the average person's everyday needs and why would they buy one of these?
You would be surprised how many regular people buy them around me i see them everyday drivin by everyday people. In fact Chrysler brought back the HD pickups from Mexico they are built in their Warren Truck assembly plant in Michigan. Just because you and others don’t think the average person will buy them than look around because people are buying them they would not be selling if they weren’t. Pickups are it now that’s why they are not making sedans anymore the profits that GM,Ford and Chrysler were not from the sale of sedans.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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You would be surprised how many regular people buy them around me i see them everyday drivin by everyday people. In fact Chrysler brought back the HD pickups from Mexico they are built in their Warren Truck assembly plant in Michigan. Just because you and others don’t think the average person will buy them than look around because people are buying them they would not be selling if they weren’t. Pickups are it now that’s why they are not making sedans anymore the profits that GM,Ford and Chrysler were not from the sale of sedans.
As always, you mistake "why would [inappropriate buyers] buy them" for "nobody's buying them!"

Yes, they're selling. So do lots of ill-considered things to people who don't really need them.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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As always, you mistake "why would [inappropriate buyers] buy them" for "nobody's buying them!"

Yes, they're selling. So do lots of ill-considered things to people who don't really need them.
It’s none of yours or anyone’s else’s business what people buy your not paying for it so don’t worry about if they need it or not. It’s not effecting your life.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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It’s none of yours or anyone’s else’s business what people buy your not paying for it so don’t worry about if they need it or not. It’s not effecting your life.

Agree. We all buy chit we dont need, but can afford to, and so we do. Its called enjoying your life. To each his/her own. It keeps the economy going.
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Old 02-08-2019, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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It’s none of yours or anyone’s else’s business what people buy your not paying for it so don’t worry about if they need it or not. It’s not effecting your life.
So your answer to answering the wrong question (again) is to reach down to the bottom of the sack for the dumbest answer there is.

Got it.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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Look:

https://images.carscoops.com/2019/02...d-f-450-00.jpg

It looks like a Fordosauras Rex.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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So your answer to answering the wrong question (again) is to reach down to the bottom of the sack for the dumbest answer there is.

Got it.


And you always you have a negative opinion on everything you think everyone should think like you, you also think you know more the the automakers and their engineers. Believe me you don’t know squat on the big3. And for your info the uaw thanks all the people for buying vehicles they don’t need, especially the GM workers who are getting a $10,700 profit shareing check.
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