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Problem is that some cars are better than others.The new gm high buck trucks for example (50 to 60k price) have a bug in their transmissions that the owners are being stuck with no recall and little service to fix it from GM. Look for car models with a proven dependability history and expect. the 200k
Great point timing chain will last the engines lifetime compared to a timing belt. Timing belts are have a low mileage guaranteed failure point that comes at high cost. Make sure the new car you select has a timing chain rather then a timing belt.
Timing belts are fairly inexpensive -- parts and labor -- so for most cars $600-$1000 every 100k miles, or 0.6-1.0 cents per mile.
Timing chains are complex and difficult to replace. They might last 100k miles, or 200k miles, or 300k miles. There's no way to predict how long. Should you replace them before they fail, or just pray that they don't? If the chain fails, however, you probably won't be able to salvage the engine.
I prefer the predictability of timing belts. Replace them when you should, and have the work done by someone who knows what he's doing, and you can expect a very long-lasting engine.
I would expect engine/trans to outlast the functional life of the car, such as body hardware, AC, brakes, steering, suspension, cooling, etc' Almost every car I ever walked away from still had good serviceable (if not perfect) engime/trans but were otherwise scrap..
Assuming a 2019 car is not flogged and it's maintained as per the automaker's recommendations, I'd expect an average car to go at least 150K miles without a motor/tranny rebuild, a good car at least 200K miles, and a great car at least 250K miles. Note that this is "at least", not when I'd absolutely expect them to break down.
Timing belts are fairly inexpensive -- parts and labor -- so for most cars $600-$1000 every 100k miles, or 0.6-1.0 cents per mile.
Timing chains are complex and difficult to replace. They might last 100k miles, or 200k miles, or 300k miles. There's no way to predict how long. Should you replace them before they fail, or just pray that they don't? If the chain fails, however, you probably won't be able to salvage the engine.
I prefer the predictability of timing belts. Replace them when you should, and have the work done by someone who knows what he's doing, and you can expect a very long-lasting engine.
I’ve never had an issue with a timing chain. It’s the timing belt that breaks or jumps and that bends the valves and you need an engine
It’s the timing belt that breaks or jumps and that bends the valves and you need an engine
Only on poorly designed engines. As I have posted before, the timing belt snapped on my 1993 Geo Prizm while on the freeway going 70. All it needed was a timing belt. It is those Hyundai's and Kia's that you love that are the problem, not timing belts breaking. Toyota designed it so the valves won't hit the pistons if the belt breaks. That is why you never see 1993 Hyundai's or Kia's driving around. They are throw away cars.
Timing belts are fairly inexpensive -- parts and labor -- so for most cars $600-$1000 every 100k miles, or 0.6-1.0 cents per mile.
Timing chains are complex and difficult to replace. They might last 100k miles, or 200k miles, or 300k miles. There's no way to predict how long. Should you replace them before they fail, or just pray that they don't? If the chain fails, however, you probably won't be able to salvage the engine.
I prefer the predictability of timing belts. Replace them when you should, and have the work done by someone who knows what he's doing, and you can expect a very long-lasting engine.
There is no difference in complexity or difficulty of replacing a timing chain vs a belt. Regardless of a chain or belt fails the engine is done. The advantage of a chain is that you simply don’t have the maintenance schedule of a belt. A chain will start getting noisy as it stretches so you get a warning it needs work. A chain may need replacement at 200k. Most of the time a engine fails from lack of maintenance.
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