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With the exception of Tesla all new car purchases (COSTCO, Amazon, etc.) still pass through the hands of a dealer even if you do not see/talk to the dealer. While hassle free, they are not the lowest price one can get by haggling with a dealer directly but few know how and many others do not want to hassle with a dealer.
It will be man years, if ever, before existing manufacturers go consumer direct.
You do sort of need dealerships too because they offer service and financing options that are more flexible than mfg.
The reason you only see a certain type of folks drive Tesla because they only approve people who got good credit. They're not gonna advertise nothing down or anyone with a job can drive ads like dealership does. Dealerships offer subprime loans, that's why so many expensive new cars are at poor neighborhoods.
I always tell the salesperson "do NOT even mention extended warranties". They inevitably do and I warn them that if they say "extended warranty" one more time that I'm going to get up and leave. This cuts time in half.
Also, when they take the keys to my trade-in, they always resist giving them back in order to keep you a captive audience. I always insist that I get the keys back before we start doing paperwork. And, I let them know that if they dawdle I'm leaving. That speeds things up too.
Don't forget: dealerships may be understaffed at this time.
If you're referring to " L A Cyclesports" in Inglewood, then I can see that, as their old business name was "OTD Motorcycles." (Bought a 'busa from them, back in 2008...)
They have..
Polaris
Honda
Suzuki
Triumph
They may have others, I dunno.
Yes! That’s them. I forgot the name. Good guys, fast, no BS, we were out of there in less than an hour. I bought. 2009 Honda dirt bike. Sketchy area though.
Because the owners know their business, and realize they can make more money acting like Neanderthals than they can if they act in an ethical manner. And who is at fault for this? Uneducated, unfamiliar, too-trusting, and lazy customers. When people learn to get up and walk when the BS-band starts playing, or better yet, start boycotting disreputable dealers, things will change for the better. But not before.
I think one of the big problems is that the majority of the car buying population buy the car based on the "monthly payments". This is the most common question I get asked from the sales people when I start negotiating the price of a car, "How much do you want to pay per month?". Now I guess nobody cares how much is the actual car's price, how long the payments are. They might be paying for the car long after the warranty is up. This opens up the door for the dealers to pull all sorts of tricks to sell you a loan you can't afford.
Yep... you can drive this car home for $299 per month and the being fuel efficient your gas savings will pay for the car...
But what does it cost??? $299 a month.
One of the receptionist traded in her car and came to work with a brand new loaded Accord... late Monday she got a call saying they could not finance her at the rate quoted.
She was buying into higher interest... I said unwind the deal and get your trade back... they had sold it...
Told her to hold firm and by the end of the week they made it work... weasels...
I think one of the big problems is that the majority of the car buying population buy the car based on the "monthly payments". This is the most common question I get asked from the sales people when I start negotiating the price of a car, "How much do you want to pay per month?". Now I guess nobody cares how much is the actual car's price, how long the payments are. They might be paying for the car long after the warranty is up. This opens up the door for the dealers to pull all sorts of tricks to sell you a loan you can't afford.
it is always amazing to me how they always ask this which means that many people negotiate based on the monthly payments. its a totally meaningless part of the negotiation process.
it is always amazing to me how they always ask this which means that many people negotiate based on the monthly payments. its a totally meaningless part of the negotiation process.
I just tell them it's not important. I want to know the out the door price. If they can't give that to me I'm walking. The last truck I bought they gave me their rates and terms with several different scenarios on amount down. The only thing they knew was that I was trading in my truck (still owed on it and didn't want to deal with selling privately for that amount in a lower population area!) I was vague on the rest as I wanted an actual price with no tricks. And no, I wouldn't tell them the monthly payment I was shooting for.
A little rate negotiation as I already had a loan lined up and we agreed. It wasn't really that bad. After getting the truck they actually called me back in a few days later because the rate actually was actually 1/2 a percent too high so they lowered it. I'd definitely use them again.
Yes, they tried their sales tactics on add-ons but I just told them that I understand they have to try so have at it but I'm not getting any of the extras they'll be trying to sell.
For the test drive he actually gave me the keys and let me go alone-----so no salesman with me blabbering away talking everything up to me getting me distracted from actually paying attention to the drive.
it is always amazing to me how they always ask this which means that many people negotiate based on the monthly payments. its a totally meaningless part of the negotiation process.
That's because car dealerships are not incentivized by lenders and not price. And we have to blame consumers too that can't afford cars but still wants to own more car than the can afford.
This goes for both new and used dealers. You don't negotiate on price anymore, it is always about monthly payments and they don't care about buyers that pay cash.
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