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The government can take your constitutional rights away from you, and they can do it legally. The constitution may be amended, and it has been 27 times.
Actually, the government can't take all of your rights away, even if they amend the Constitution. That's a myth. The constitution secures certain right but it is not the final arbiter of your rights as a person. You have certain inalienable rights. With respect to those rights, the constitution is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if the Constitution is amended, ignored or shredded. You still have certain rights.
A NSL allows the FBI to spy on people for 'national security' reasons....and no warrant is needed.
No it doesn't. It's a demand to third parties to turn over certain records, those records cannot be content based (when an email was sent, not the content of the email). Seriously, are you just making up as you go?
Actually, the government can't take all of your rights away, even if they amend the Constitution. That's a myth. The constitution secures certain right but it is not the final arbiter of your rights as a person. You have certain inalienable rights. With respect to those rights, the constitution is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if the Constitution is amended, ignored or shredded. You still have certain rights.
Maybe... But what are those inalienable rights? The constitution doesn't mention them, only the declaration of independence does. So I'm a bit skeptical.
So what is the difference between this and the police helicopters and planes outside of no pilot
CCTV monitored by police used on almost every street corner in large cities?
LMAO, the difference?
With UAV's there is no overtime or medical benefits or union dues...
High speed chases endanger innocent civilians, not to mention those being chased and the police. I would rather, if it were feasible, have people tracked by drones. Cars even try to avoid helicopters. Think of how drones could track a suspected terrorist right to his base.
After 911 this country appears to have a lot less crime and I suspect it is in part due to devices that we are just now starting to be made aware of.
High speed chases endanger innocent civilians, not to mention those being chased and the police. I would rather, if it were feasible, have people tracked by drones. Cars even try to avoid helicopters. Think of how drones could track a suspected terrorist right to his base.
After 911 this country appears to have a lot less crime and I suspect it is in part due to devices that we are just now starting to be made aware of.
High speed chases endanger innocent civilians, not to mention those being chased and the police. I would rather, if it were feasible, have people tracked by drones. Cars even try to avoid helicopters. Think of how drones could track a suspected terrorist right to his base.
After 911 this country appears to have a lot less crime and I suspect it is in part due to devices that we are just now starting to be made aware of.
Cite?
Why should three hundred million americans be treated as "suspected terrorists" because of a singular incident?
Actually, the government can't take all of your rights away, even if they amend the Constitution. That's a myth. The constitution secures certain right but it is not the final arbiter of your rights as a person. You have certain inalienable rights. With respect to those rights, the constitution is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if the Constitution is amended, ignored or shredded. You still have certain rights.
You are correct. All that can be done through the amendment process is the removal of the constitutional protections granted. The US Constitution never granted any of our inherent rights in the first place, therefore, it cannot revoke them either.
Eliminating the First Amendment, for example, does not mean that we cannot speak our minds. It only means that we no longer have the protection of the US Constitution when we do speak our minds.
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Maybe... But what are those inalienable rights? The constitution doesn't mention them, only the declaration of independence does. So I'm a bit skeptical.
Actually, the US Constitution does mention some of them. Amendments one through eight cover specific inherent rights, and the Ninth Amendment acknowledges that not all the rights listed in the first eight amendments is the limit to our rights.
You are correct. All that can be done through the amendment process is the removal of the constitutional protections granted. The US Constitution never granted any of our inherent rights in the first place, therefore, it cannot revoke them either.
Eliminating the First Amendment, for example, does not mean that we cannot speak our minds. It only means that we no longer have the protection of the US Constitution when we do speak our minds.
Actually, the US Constitution does mention some of them. Amendments one through eight cover specific inherent rights, and the Ninth Amendment acknowledges that not all the rights listed in the first eight amendments is the limit to our rights.
Who says they're inherent and inalienable? If that was the case, why are amendments necessary? Amendments that can be revoked.
Who says they're inherent and inalienable? If that was the case, why are amendments necessary? Amendments that can be revoked.
They were not included at all initially, because it was believed that the State Constitutions would be sufficient to protect our inherent rights. They were only added on after-the-fact at the insistence of Virginia and New York in order to get their ratification of the US Constitution.
You may find it more difficult than you think to "revoke" any of the first eight amendments. At least 38 State legislatures would have to agree to revoke or repeal the "Bill of Rights."
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