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Old 03-27-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The only way to prevent this particular incident would have required the co-pilot's Doctor to report his mental illness to his employer or the equivalent of the FFA. The Doctor had apparently said he was unfit for work and the co-pilot ignored it and ripped up the document.

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Old 03-27-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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I suppose it is also possible the illness was cancer or some other likely deadly or debilitating malady that would cause him to want to kill himself.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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This is the third such crash in less than two years (the one in Africa and the one in Indonesia). I find that highly disturbing, don't you?


Mahrie.

Very.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I don't find it disturbing at all. You have to see the bigger picture. In 2014 for the first time in history there were more than 100,000 flights per day worldwide. It is natural that from time to time there is an incident. The same happens with trains and cars and ships. Flying is safer today than it ever was.
If you want to completely rule out being injured or killed in traffic of any kind, just don't leave your home or live somewhere in the woods far from any motorized vehicles.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Canada
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When you have a pilot or co-pilot that wants to commit suicide, there ain't a heck of a lot of things you can do.
The airlines HAVE to start testing these pilots OFTEN for ANY kind of illness, drugs in their systems, or strange behaviour. Not just once in a while.

Yes, we are talking huge $$ for evaluations, but these airlines have to think of the millions of people at risk in the sky every day with potentially volatile pilots.

It's tragic and very selfish that he had to bring a whole plane load down with him if he wanted to commit suicide.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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Im pretty sure a woman dumped him. When you hear of a man committing Suicide, it is usually due to religion or a woman dumped him and he doesnt know how to cope with it.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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I keep seeing news reports that he was hiding a medical condition.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: NYC
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When you have a pilot or co-pilot that wants to commit suicide, there ain't a heck of a lot of things you can do.
The airlines HAVE to start testing these pilots OFTEN for ANY kind of illness, drugs in their systems, or strange behaviour. Not just once in a while.

Yes, we are talking huge $$ for evaluations, but these airlines have to think of the millions of people at risk in the sky every day with potentially volatile pilots.

It's tragic and very selfish that he had to bring a whole plane load down with him if he wanted to commit suicide.
You can pass these tests on the day you have them and still have suicidal thoughts later. People's mental states aren't static. The best policy is still to ensure having more than one person in the cockpit at all times. The likelihood of both people going nuts at once is still a lot smaller than just one.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Maybe it would help to monitor all the crew's heartbeat with those watch-like thingies one wears on the wrist. I assume anyone about to destroy or hijack a plane is likely to trigger a heartbeat alarm And when they take it off, it would also trigger the alarm.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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When you have a pilot or co-pilot that wants to commit suicide, there ain't a heck of a lot of things you can do.
The airlines HAVE to start testing these pilots OFTEN for ANY kind of illness, drugs in their systems, or strange behaviour. Not just once in a while.

Yes, we are talking huge $$ for evaluations, but these airlines have to think of the millions of people at risk in the sky every day with potentially volatile pilots.

It's tragic and very selfish that he had to bring a whole plane load down with him if he wanted to commit suicide.
Just how widespread of an issue do you think this is? Especially amongst first world nations?

How many flights are there yearly without incident?

Here in the States almost 10,000 people are killed yearly in DUI deaths with an annual price tag of almost $60 billion in DUI related accidents. Yet no calls for interlock devices on all motor vehicles despite having a huge impact on reducing the mortality rate.

I would consider that much more of a pressing issue than what happened a few days ago.
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