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Old 02-26-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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That doesn't mean anything. All this tells us is that the Park Heights area doesn't offer any reasonable gentrification opportunities. The closest is the Druid Hill Park area but thats turning very slowly. Besides revenue and jobs, what does Pimlico actually offer? A historic getaway for rich folks outside the city? Tax free income for those who can use their houses as parking lots once a year?

Now replace Canton Crossing with Pimlico with new construction townhomes that are affordable. Provide a lovely open park space that will compliment the arberitum. Add new business that are would be more inviting and convienent than Reiserstown Rd. There is no ambience in this city.

Then you will see SPH slowly changing. People Will start fixing up houses on Belvedere Blvd and will creep more south. This would be the catalyst to such change.


Exactly... I don't see "gentrification" being an issue in PH. Any revitalization that happens will be right adjacent to the track. "Central" PH will be a long way away from gentrifying but may get the benefit of having better services (retail or office) because of the new development and closer employment opportunities. If the City is in control of the development they can insure a reasonable amount of affordable housing.. atleast more than what a developer would put in there. Sinai is a pretty good neighbor from what I hear and seem to manage their facility better than some of the downtown hospitals.


The City took down a couple dozen row homes along PH Ave and over towards Pimlico Road and issued an RFP for new developed per the PH Master Plan.. That is totally separate from anything at the track. IF the track actually gets going. The new infill along PH Ave. Most of what the link shows along parts of Oakley, Woodlands Ave and around the CC Jackson Rec Center has been torn down so the greenspace in the link is larger than what is shown. This is where the housing is to go on both sides of PH Ave and adjacent to some existing housing stock in the area. You can see the Pimlico Elementary work on the NE and the CC Jackson Park and Pool renovations to the NW. This development can only benefit/complement anything at Pimlico which is just a few blocks north.. Still... lots of work needs to be done especially around public safety.. I see way to many teddy bear totem poles with empty liquor bottle and candles around light poles which let me know homicides are still an issue....


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ba...!4d-76.6121893
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Old 02-26-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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Maybe not to you but it seems everyone else gets it.

Correct. And hasn't for most of 50 years.
Surely if it did... those 'reasonable' opportunities would have been exercised by now. Right?
Then there's the horse track property and that set of issues.
Okay. The one oppurtunity is to throw away Pimlico and do exactly what they did in DC. Build.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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Exactly... I don't see "gentrification" being an issue in PH. Any revitalization that happens will be right adjacent to the track. "Central" PH will be a long way away from gentrifying but may get the benefit of having better services (retail or office) because of the new development and closer employment opportunities. If the City is in control of the development they can insure a reasonable amount of affordable housing.. atleast more than what a developer would put in there. Sinai is a pretty good neighbor from what I hear and seem to manage their facility better than some of the downtown hospitals.


The City took down a couple dozen row homes along PH Ave and over towards Pimlico Road and issued an RFP for new developed per the PH Master Plan.. That is totally separate from anything at the track. IF the track actually gets going. The new infill along PH Ave. Most of what the link shows along parts of Oakley, Woodlands Ave and around the CC Jackson Rec Center has been torn down so the greenspace in the link is larger than what is shown. This is where the housing is to go on both sides of PH Ave and adjacent to some existing housing stock in the area. You can see the Pimlico Elementary work on the NE and the CC Jackson Park and Pool renovations to the NW. This development can only benefit/complement anything at Pimlico which is just a few blocks north.. Still... lots of work needs to be done especially around public safety.. I see way to many teddy bear totem poles with empty liquor bottle and candles around light poles which let me know homicides are still an issue....


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It is certainly a very promising intersection. Its a very unique place and probably the best location in the city to have such as situation. The Arberitium is even near by which can make the place even more walkable.
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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Default New Library in PH

This new library was just announced and it is in the same area as the proposed housing and the new school near Pimlico Track... Article notes that it is part of the revitalization vision for that area...


https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimor..._news_headline
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Old 02-27-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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I think the Stronach organization makes a good case for their position. Lets hope the city doesn't attempt the old eminent domain trick. Irsay pulled the Colts out of the city when the General Assembly was working to take the team away from him via eminent domain.
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Old 02-28-2019, 02:32 AM
 
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Nobody wants to get mugged or robbed when
Attending a horse race. The mayor has failed to stop crime in Baltimore, so moving the Preakness is the
Obvious solution.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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This new library was just announced and it is in the same area as the proposed housing and the new school near Pimlico Track... Article notes that it is part of the revitalization vision for that area...


https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimor..._news_headline
Good move.
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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The present effort by the Mayor and her associates to keep
the Preakness at Pimlico Race Track is just a face saving
measure for better re-election possibilities. If the white
supremacists who own the track want to move the event to
a "brighter future" let them do so. The event is an outdated
affair that is really just competition of the elite using horses.
The great unwashed is allowed to attend and unwashed
they are. Drunken, racehorse punching yahoos who occupy
the infield and are placated with events suitable to their
class like bikini contests and porta-potty jumping. When
the races are over, a trail of passed out drunks can be
seen in the grassy areas of the neighborhood. I won't
miss it.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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the solutions is bulldozers, lots of bulldozers.
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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There is some talk about turning the race track into a dirt bike park.
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