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Old 07-02-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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If I had $50k (add a couple of popular options and you are there) I sure as hell wouldn't be buying an X1 with it! (Mini Countryman with a different skin)

I guess it has better packaging when they changed it to front drive based but can't imagine the driving dynamics improved and it's pretty boring looking.

In that range I would look at the Infiniti QX30 (Mercedes GLA with better looking clothes) I just saw an offer for a no down lease for $239/mo -and a Mazda CX-5 (which is a nice compact crossover, but...) for $249/mo with $2500 down or you can get the same car, Mercedes GLA for $369/mo with $3000 down! The Infinity is a nice compact crossover and the major bargain of the bunch.

Lots of better/equivalent choices for a good deal less.

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Old 07-05-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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arrogant statement

Not arrogant, just true. There is simply no reason other than brand image to buy an X1. Other vehicles in the class are better for less money. Even in the same price range, the X1 is a mediocre offering.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Car and Driver recently tested small luxury SUVs, and ranked the BMW in first place. 2nd was the Lexus, 3rd & 4th were the Nissan twins, and 5th was Audi. The article gives an in depth looks at each model.

2016 Audi Q3 Quattro vs. 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i, 2017 Infiniti QX30 AWD, 2016 Lexus NX200t F Sport AWD, 2016 Mercedes-Benz GLA250 4MATIC – Comparison Test – Car and Driver
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Old 07-05-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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Not arrogant, just true. There is simply no reason other than brand image to buy an X1. Other vehicles in the class are better for less money. Even in the same price range, the X1 is a mediocre offering.
but they don't drive like a BMW. Some people want a smaller vehicle than the x3. Automobiles are getting larger & larger. I driven the newer 3 series, it feels rather large to me especially compared to the old e36 or e30. Just saying....
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Not arrogant, just true. There is simply no reason other than brand image to buy an X1. Other vehicles in the class are better for less money. Even in the same price range, the X1 is a mediocre offering.
The e84 X1 drives much closer to a car, the e90 3 series it was based on. The X3 drives more like an SUV. Higher center of gravity and tippy around corners. Another thing that's not thought of too much is that the e84 X1 was thousands less than a 3 series wagon, and they are very similar, so if you were looking at a wagon this was a very viable alternative.

The e84 has the makings of a cult classic following. It's also one of the last models that has hydraulic steering. BMW's went to electronic drive by wire soon after.

Just because it's not for you, doesn't mean there's no reason for it.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:42 AM
 
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I am a huge BMW fan..but when it comes to their crossovers (X1 in the case) i have actually never positive feedback. Though i find its design sporty and dynamic, the steering wheel - nicely responsive and the ride - pretty smooth.
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I just bought a 2018 BMW X1 and LOVE it. We have 4 vehicles, including a larger sized Toyota SUV.

I think I test drove just about every 2018 small/med SUV on the market, and I even brought instruments/equipment to dealerships to test if they fit in the vehicle along with 3 adults.

I tried the X3/X5, but the X1 had exactly what I wanted:

- smaller-sized (shorter length) SUV to fit in a small garage space
- spacious interior cargo room to fit large instruments/sporting equipment. When you flip down one back seat, and pull out the trunk spare tire/tray, there is considerable cargo room - more room than many larger SUV.
- lots of head room for passengers over 6 feet
- good handling/maneuverability/pep for city driving - easily achieved in sport mode. I was also surprised at the tightness of 3 point turns for an SUV. This is important as I'm often in tight spaced city parking lots.
- safety features and easier car-like driving/viewability for occasional teen drivers
- great navigation/infotainment/tech systems
- AWD and comfort for long winter driving trips

I got the premium package with every available upgrade/option - heads up display, infotainment/Apple CarPlay, touchpad, wireless phone charging, 360 cameras, heated seats/steering, panoramic moonroof, adaptive headlights, parking assist, etc... etc.. I also got the larger 19" wheels and additional snow tires. I could not be happier. The vehicle is fun to drive.

p.s. I also like how the key fob logs all the car data and you can just give the fob to the mechanic to download the performance history...

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Old 10-15-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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but they don't drive like a BMW. Some people want a smaller vehicle than the x3. Automobiles are getting larger & larger. I driven the newer 3 series, it feels rather large to me especially compared to the old e36 or e30. Just saying....
This is exactly why I chose the X1... It drove/handled so much better than the other vehicles I tried (and I test drove every other brand in that market segment), and the X3 was too big for me.

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Old 10-15-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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If I had $50k (add a couple of popular options and you are there) I sure as hell wouldn't be buying an X1 with it! (Mini Countryman with a different skin)

I guess it has better packaging when they changed it to front drive based but can't imagine the driving dynamics improved and it's pretty boring looking.

In that range I would look at the Infiniti QX30 (Mercedes GLA with better looking clothes) I just saw an offer for a no down lease for $239/mo -and a Mazda CX-5 (which is a nice compact crossover, but...) for $249/mo with $2500 down or you can get the same car, Mercedes GLA for $369/mo with $3000 down! The Infinity is a nice compact crossover and the major bargain of the bunch.

Lots of better/equivalent choices for a good deal less.
X1 drives/handles better than the the Infiniti and Mazda. I particularly disliked the Infiniti after test-driving it. I don't know if I got a bad test car or what - but the engine was a real clunker. The Mercedes GLA was nice and smooth but more of a luxury "comfort" car to me, and did not feel as nibble, quick, and agile as the X1 which I prefer.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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Please test drive a ‘15 X1 35 with the 300/300 hp-tq. It’s a ton of fun to drive!
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