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Old 06-14-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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yeah it just seems a little unfair at times. There are neighborhoods that I have lived in that have changed many times over since I have been there. I would rather get more accurate information from people who currently live there. It doesn't seem like the few habitual crime news posters really have an actual grasp on what its like to live there. That's unfair. Boston is a a city with crime. yes. if you google Mattapan + Crime you would think it's the Gaza strip. But in reality there are some parts that have lovely houses and quiet suburban like cul-de-sacs.
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Old 06-14-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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I'm not sure what is unfair about this, lol. Anyone who is currently living there and owns real estate is exactly who I wouldn't listen to! Wake up.
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Old 06-14-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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because you have no idea what it's like to walk that strip at midnight. Because you haven't. lol
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Old 06-14-2021, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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personally i dont want to live in a place that has frequent crime. I sure as hell don't to pay high rent on an area that has high crime. Thats just my opinion.

Its a fact that there is a good amount of crime in the south end. That's NOT an opinion.
No, that's not how facts work. "A good amount" is very much a subjective statement, not a fact. A fact would be to say "there is more crime in the South End than some neighborhoods and less than others" - that's easily verifiable. "A good amount" to you may be "too much" for some and "insignificant" for others.

And crime rates, particularly rates that don't indicate that a single area is a big outlier in terms of crime, don't tell anyone a whole lot on their own. More important in a scenario like this one are things like the specific locations within the neighborhood, common routes for leisure/work, etc., age/gender, lifestyle, etc. The South End is much more dangerous for a 50 year old woman who lives on Hammond St, uses heavy drugs, and hangs out at Mass/Cass at night than it is for a 35 year old guy who lives at Clarendon/Chandler, works at the Hancock Tower, and hangs out at upscale bars and restaurants in the Back Bay and South End.

The OP would probably be perfectly fine at Tremont/Mass. Ave. Even if she didn't want to walk the SW Corridor at night, there are easy alternatives (the T and other busier, well-lit walking routes). Frankly, I'd worry more about her comfort level than her actually being the victim of a crime. If she's new to Boston and not someone who has lived in big cities, there are other neighborhoods that still offer an easy commute to Back Bay while also providing a bigger buffer between the nice/safe spots and the rougher spots than that corner of the South End. And that might help the adjustment a little easier.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:01 PM
 
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NO I haven't and I wouldn't want to. It just seems risky.

It's like saying have you driven drunk and made it home safely. Ok good to know, Ill try that out.

I had my car broken into twice in the early 2000's in the south end. Once i had some new clothes taken out of it, another time my window broken. I realize bad neighborhoods can improve but the south end hasnt except for a few nice restaurants. If anything the drug epidemic in the area has worsened.

in the end I dont care where someone else I don't know on a forum decides to live. But i'm not going to pretend it's a fine area and ok to be walking around at midnight.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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yeah it just seems a little unfair at times. There are neighborhoods that I have lived in that have changed many times over since I have been there. I would rather get more accurate information from people who currently live there. It doesn't seem like the few habitual crime news posters really have an actual grasp on what its like to live there. That's unfair. Boston is a a city with crime. yes. if you google Mattapan + Crime you would think it's the Gaza strip. But in reality there are some parts that have lovely houses and quiet suburban like cul-de-sacs.
People that live there are of course the best sources.

Random posting of occurrences is useless. Crime stats are only relevant on a per capita basis. More incidents count wise does not in any way, shape or form indicate more dangerous.

I think most people understand that.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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I am someone who lived in a bad part of Dorchester not long ago. I never had any trouble but I did NOT walk around at midnight. Actually I think i did do that once and I group of people pulled over in a car to talk to me and I got quite a few cat calls. Never again. Just why put yourself in that situation.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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People that live there are of course the best sources.

Random posting of occurrences is useless. Crime stats are only relevant on a per capita basis. More incidents count wise does not in any way, shape or form indicate more dangerous.

I think most people understand that.
No people that live there can have false hope that they will sell their place for twice the amount it was worth when they feel like it. Of course they want the neighborhood to be good.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:13 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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No people that live there can have false hope that they will sell their place for twice the amount it was worth when they feel like it. Of course they want the neighborhood to be good.
If you think someone posting on this board can impact a neighborhood's values. Well. No hope there.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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NO I haven't and I wouldn't want to. It just seems risky.

It's like saying have you driven drunk and made it home safely. Ok good to know, Ill try that out.

I had my car broken into twice in the early 2000's in the south end. Once i had some new clothes taken out of it, another time my window broken. I realize bad neighborhoods can improve but the south end hasnt except for a few nice restaurants. If anything the drug epidemic in the area has worsened..
  1. There's risk in anything you do. Weston is safe in terms of crime. But if you drive from home in Weston to your office in the Back Bay, you're likelier to be killed in a car accident than someone in the South End (who doesn't have a car commute) is to be murdered, yet you're not telling people how dangerous a car commute is in any thread where someone is asking about drive times. We all have different tolerances for different risks.
  2. How on earth is it like saying you've driven drunk and made it home safely?
  3. The early 2000s was 20ish years ago.

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I am someone who lived in a bad part of Dorchester not long ago. I never had any trouble but I did NOT walk around at midnight. Actually I think i did do that once and I group of people pulled over in a car to talk to me and I got quite a few cat calls. Never again. Just why put yourself in that situation.
Tremont at Mass Ave. in the South End is not a bad part of Dorchester.
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