Worst Ghetto in California? (Los Angeles, San Diego: coupons, mobile home, unemployment)

[MattClyde]

Originally Posted by Taboo2

Please provide links that it has better schools than BH, LCF, MDR, LN, LB, RSM and every other city I named.

I really don't think it does, so please hook us up with the links that it is safer AND has better schools than the cities I listed in previous post.

Irvine USD has some of the best public schools in the nation, not to mention UCI.

Irvine Unified earns top overall ranking | irvine, schools, unified - News - The Orange County Register

http://www.ocmetro.com/t-Irvine_name...ca_6_1_09.aspx

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

You won't see Oakland making a list like that.

LOL...nor will Irvine ever have a restaurant actually awarded a star by Michelin(along with anywhere else in the whole of Orange County). Nor will Irvine have a large population of wealthy and highly educated blacks, nor will Irvine ever have the number of artists Oakland does.

And so on.

We are comparing two cities that attract totally different affluent and upscale demographics.

And yet Oakland definitely attracts a subset of the affluent demographic that Irvine probably never will.

In fact, Im willing to bet that it would be easier for Oakland to attract a borish Suburanite than it would be for Irvine to lure a yuppie who wants to live in a loft and take a subway to work...LOL

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by MattClyde

Irvine USD has some of the best public schools in the nation, not to mention UCI.

Irvine Unified earns top overall ranking | irvine, schools, unified - News - The Orange County Register

Here's a nice little ranking that I posted here a while back:

Schooldigger's latest ranking.

Top 50 Cities in California ranked by Quality of Public Schools
1 Portola Valley
2 Los Altos Hills
3 Orinda
4 Hillsborough
5 La Canada-Flintridge
6 Larkspur
7 San Marino
8 Kentfield
9 Manhattan Beach
10 Moraga
11 Los Altos
12 Agoura Hills
13 Del Mar
14 Rancho Santa Fe
15 Piedmont
16 Cupertino
17 Palo Alto
18 Carmel
19 Solana Beach
20 Stanford
21 Kensington
22 Mill Valley
23 Sierra Madre
24 Lafayette
25 Palos Verdes Estates
26 South Pasadena
27 San Ramon
28 Pacific Palisades
29 Corona Del Mar
30 Alamo
31 Studio City
32 Sloughhouse
33 Los Gatos
34 La Jolla
35 Garden Valley
36 Foster City
37 Stevenson Ranch
38 San Anselmo
39 Rolling Hills Estates
40 Irvine
41 Arcadia
42 Los Alamitos
43 Carmel Valley
44 La Crescenta
45 Ross
46 El Dorado Hills
47 Saratoga
48 Albany
49 Coto De Caza
50 Walnut Creek

California State Cities - CA City School Rankings

[MattClyde]

La Cañada-Flintridge, Irvine's nemesis. lol not really but Irvine still has more Asians so IUSD should be ahead of them, oh well.

I have noticed that many lists vary but either way Irvine is probably on all of the lists of best public schools.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

LOL...nor will Irvine ever have a restaurant actually awarded a star by Michelin(along with anywhere else in the whole of Orange County). Nor will Irvine have a large population of wealthy and highly educated blacks, nor will Irvine ever have the number of artists Oakland does.

And so on.

We are comparing two cities that attract totally different affluent and upscale demographics.

And yet Oakland definitely attracts a subset of the affluent demographic that Irvine probably never will.

In fact, Im willing to bet that it would be easier for Oakland to attract a borish Suburanite than it would be for Irvine to lure a yuppie who wants to live in a loft and take a subway to work...LOL

1) LA has 13 Michelin Star Restaurants, 3 of which are TWO star. Oakland has only ONE with ONE star, which is "Commis" and their menu is "Californian" which I'm not a fan of anyway. Their menu features such specialties as "4 pieces of cheese on a plate for $8". So much for your claim to Oakland's "Culinary" diversity.

2) Irvine has the overall richer and smarter people when compared to Oakland by your own provided stats. More people hold degrees, and they have more earners over $200,000. You can play the "race" card which is a trademark of yours to cloud the issue, but you live in the dumber, poorer, and more crime infested city. That can't be argued.

[GrandviewGloria]

Originally Posted by TheBarrenLands

What do you guys think the worst "ghetto" (aka crime filled, run-down slum) in California is? Not a lot of people outside of California think of ghettos when they hear about California, they just think it's all movie stars and beaches. In my experiences, it would have to be all of South Central LA, from Pico Rivera down to North Long Beach (basically everything along the 110 from the Harbor to downtown), or Oakland. San Bernardino in the IE also has a sky-high crime rate and some run down looking neighborhoods, but it lacks the "urban ghetto" feel of the others. Your thoughts, Californians?

Well....actually....people used to think of California in terms of Movie Stars and beaches. Now, most of us have met people who've fled the state.

We've heard things like "We were trying to stick it out, but when the dude under the beach umbrella next to us got his head blown off, with our kids watching, I said 'That's it!', and my husband took the aerospace job in Atlanta".

Now, we think of California in terms of inflated real estate, and an Asian elite exploiting an Hispanic underclass, while Blacks are shunted-off into deeper ghettos by the Mexicans, and the few whites rich enough to remain in the state huddle in hyperluxe communities hugging the coast.

We hear about small farmers' Orange groves being stripped of fruit, overnight. We know about the Pot being grown by drug gangs in the National Forests. We know about the county that has been taken over by drug-growing operations.

We see Beverly Hills as full of Iranian Jews (that's when we're thinking optimistically...They're the Dream Team, compared to certain others) and are quite aware that the Sultan of Brunei owns The Beverly Hills Hotel and the Hotel BelAir.

We know that Malibu has the highest number of Rehab centers in the nation (and that the Feds have made it impossible for the community to keep them out...even to keep them out of gated residential enclaves).

We know how Governor Shwarzenegger made ends meet, when he was a newly-arrived megahunk from Germany. We know about his father's Nazi connections, and his wife's grandfather's Nazi connections.

We know that the state is bankrupt from the costs of dealing with immigrants. We know that the children of illegals consume a huge chunk of the education budget, and that the schools have disintegrated into a hopeless morass. We know about the emergency rooms that have shut down, due to the costs of dealing with illegals. And we know all too well, about moms popping across the border to whelp out their little Anchor Babies (on the American taxpayer's dime).

We know that California is now the Least Educated State, when it once was among the Most Educated. We know that California is running neck-and-neck with Mississippi, now, for the honor of STATE WITH THE LOWEST AVERAGE IQ.

We know about the incomprehensibly insane brand of Victimologist Liberalism seeping out of Berkeley, and permeating the state's colleges like Sepsis from a ripped Colon.

We have read about the small towns that are now totally immigrant, with clusters of mail boxes in front of every small house. We've heard about the all-immigrant town near LA which recently fired its city workers...including police, because there was no money.

Many of us have experienced the insane, fast, dangerous, drunken, rude, murderously aggressive drivers, mostly from foreign countries, turning your freeways (and even city streets) into highways to Hell. We know about the pedestrian fatalities, and the accident rate.

This all makes me very sad, because even as late as the Nineties, California was Heaven. We were going to move there. We made good friends in Malibu. We rented houses in The Colony, and even bought a site where we seemed to be floating in the clouds, looking out over the Pacific. But that is not to be. We flipped the property. Our kids would not consider raising our grandchildren in California, with trends as they are.

But what disturbs us the most is the oft-repeated maxim: AS CALIFORNIA GOES, SO GOES THE COUNTRY.

As to your central question, many of us have read Pelton's 'The World's Most Dangerous Places'. He names precisely the area you have described, as being the worst part of LA. Something about the Industrial Canal.... But with things changing as fast as they are, there may be some enclave of some exotic sort of immigrant, already, that is worse than South Central. I would consider a large concentration of people who practice FGM (and who are on welfare, and who are on drugs) would be the worst of the worst.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Uh...

*applause*

[The Land]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

1) LA has 13 Michelin Star Restaurants, 3 of which are TWO star. Oakland has only ONE with ONE star, which is "Commis" and their menu is "Californian" which I'm not a fan of anyway. Their menu features such specialties as "4 pieces of cheese on a plate for $8". So much for your claim to Oakland's "Culinary" diversity.

2) Irvine has the overall richer and smarter people when compared to Oakland by your own provided stats. More people hold degrees, and they have more earners over $200,000. You can play the "race" card which is a trademark of yours to cloud the issue, but you live in the dumber, poorer, and more crime infested city. That can't be argued.

LA population 3.8 Million. Oakland 400K. Yeah real logical comparison there. Smarter by the way is subjective, considering you claim to live in Orange county and are nowhere near smart by anybody on here's observations.

[Mr. Fantastic]

LA: 3,833,995
Oakland: 446,000

Even given that, there are still more Michelin Restaurants proportionally in LA than in Oakland.

Also, observations are only as good as the observer Uptown, you should know that.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

1) LA has 13 Michelin Star Restaurants, 3 of which are TWO star.

Meanwhile Orange County(Pop 3 MILLION) has ZERO.

South County, North County, wherever part of your county you want to talk about-really does NOT compare to Oakland when it comes to food-just ask the NY Times, which frequently writes about Oakland's food scene.

Furthermore, its one thing for you to show your @ss when it comes to Oakland in the SF Forum, but now you're doing for all the CaliForumers to see...

Have you no self respect?

LOL

2) Irvine has the overall richer and smarter people when compared to Oakland by your own provided stats. More people hold degrees, and they have more earners over $200,000.

But this thread is about the Worst Ghetto in California, and it definitely is not Oakland-we've pretty much laid that possibility to rest.

Not only is it NOT Oakland, but data shows that people of considerable education and affluence really like Oakland and its also the city's fastest growing demographic.

You can play the "race" card which is a trademark of yours

Actually it HAS to be brought up because you it remains something that is totally over your head and your blinders refuse to allow you space to see reality.

Oakland has some some of the most diverse affluent neighborhoods around. My guess is that neither Irvine nor Mission Viejo have ANY diverse affluent neighborhoods aside from being half white or half asian, which is quite common all over California.

For example, Oakland's 18th richest neighborhood:

Caballo Hills neighborhood, Oakland, CA
Average HH Income, 2008(Onboard LLC): $121,583


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Yes Mr Fanatic, Black people live there. Lots of them...run and hide.

but you live in the dumber, poorer, and more crime infested city. That can't be argued.

Actually I live in Alpine which makes Mission Viejo look like Cudahy or Rialto, no offense to Cudahy or Rialto.

And my area of Oakland also has no peer in Mission Viejo.

Build a bridge and get over it.