Whip Out Your Checkbooks (Orange, Montclair: house, unemployment, schools)

[Snort]

We really at this point, do not care. And never will. We move to areas where there are no people for a reason: We don't care about your problems and we don't want to hear them.

Add psychologists to this jaded mentality. Just kidding!..............sorta.

[SacTown11]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Phil, you are in a position to affect change. Why don't you start a campaign in your department to raise the retirement age in your agency out of respect for taxpayers and your sense of responsibility?

You obviously feel strongly about it.

Why would he want to put himself on the "to be chopped" first list if or when cuts come? Only a fool would be a martyr for a lost cause.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Phil, you are in a position to affect change. Why don't you start a campaign in your department to raise the retirement age in your agency out of respect for taxpayers and your sense of responsibility?

You obviously feel strongly about it.

If I'm not mistaken, Phil would like to live to reach retirement.

[nullgeo]

I think Phil needs a group hug ...
(still, my 1/2 use of one arm, partially rebuilt face, hearing aids, and pension level of 1/3 what yours will be, for my national service, says you need to lighten up, pal ... you DO have the worst job in the world, and it has made you sour -- but it was a choice, bubba ... and now soon for your next choice: remain sour or lighten up ... stay tuned)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

If I'm not mistaken, Phil would like to live to reach retirement.

LOL...sad but funny but true.

There was a VICIOUS mayoral campaign in Richmond that went into the gutter specifically because the Police Unions, upset at the Mayor, dug up her credit report and ran commercials exposing her unpaid student loans.

It was so disgusting I couldnt believe it. She won re-election btw.

One very obvious(to me anyway) point made by Jerry Brown during his acceptance speech but not-even-noticed by the media was the fact that he brought out 2 CHARTER SCHOOLS on stage with him. That to me, was a strong message from Jerry Brown to teachers unions(who strongly oppose charter schools) that this isnt going to be business as usual and Im hoping that's true.

[UB50]

It seems to me that the whole "Meg Whitman is a ho" thing was because Brown wasn't willing to pander to the police unions...??

I believe everything is on the table with Brown -- and that would include police pensions.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by UB50

It seems to me that the whole "Meg Whitman is a ho" thing was because Brown wasn't willing to pander to the police unions...??

I believe everything is on the table with Brown -- and that would include police pensions.

Exactly-that whole Whitman telephone comment was specifically because of a union that chose to endorse her for agreeing to give them a break.

Great point!

[SacTown11]

Originally Posted by UB50

It seems to me that the whole "Meg Whitman is a ho" thing was because Brown wasn't willing to pander to the police unions...??

I believe everything is on the table with Brown -- and that would include police pensions.

You really thing that recording was an accident? lmao Jerry Brown is Rico Suave reborn. He ran the slickest campaign I've seen in over a decade. I think he is a Union Stooge, but that doesn't mean I can't respect his obvious skill at politics. Dude is a master and he knows exactly how to manipulate a majority of California voters.

I may not be one of them, but still, Browns political maneuvering was impressive.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by SacTown11

You really thing that recording was an accident? lmao Jerry Brown is Rico Suave reborn. He ran the slickest campaign I've seen in over a decade. I think he is a Union Stooge, but that doesn't mean I can't respect his obvious skill at politics. Dude is a master and he knows exactly how to manipulate a majority of California voters.

I may not be one of them, but still, Browns political maneuvering was impressive.

I thought his campaign was absolutely brilliant. Since he was facing a candidate who was willing to throw millions of $$$$$ into getting elected, he had to be smart.

He somehow managed to look old AND energetic, and it made Whitman look tired in comparison.

I think he's very sincere about wanting to put California on the correct path for the future. Don't forget, his family has lived in this state since the Gold Rush days and he obviously has a great fondness for this place.

[OC Investor2]

Originally Posted by Phil306

In 1989, I was working for United Airlines in SFO as a Rampserviceman. Union job, good pay, great benefits, etc. However, I just couldn't see myself working until age 62, loading containers full of freight.

My then brother in law, became a deputy with Alameda County Sheriff's Department. I, being a former Marine, really liked this idea. I looked at EVERYTHING, including retirement, etc. I found, AT THAT TIME, I could retire at age 55. If I stayed at UAL, I would have to retire at 62; so, I started applying to be a police officer. I DID NOT get hired at Alameda County, however, I did get hired at a police department in Alameda County.

I was quite happy over the fact I could retire, with full benefits at 55. Then, about 15 years after working, they (read the liberals in California), changed the laws to make it so I could retire at 50. WOW. Life is good and great.

I'll be 47 this month and, with only 3 years to go, until I can retire (I'll probably stay longer, due to the state of the economy) I am quite happy with whomever made the laws the way they are. I didn't do it, I didn't even ask for it. However, for whomever (thank you Governor Moonbeam and the liberals of this state) I thank you.

I have a high school education and nothing more. Except a large, 4" scar on my stomach, from being shot in Beruit, Lebanon in 1983. Other then that, I have nothing. But, thanks to the people of this state, I have alot.

Try to find out how much money your union contributed to the campaigns of the politicans who made this change. Something tells me "Luck" had very little to do with it......