New code requires residential fire sprinklers

[native56]

Your socialist system has failed everywhere it has been tried. And it is failing in California. Leave us alone. Be a do-gooder with your own money for a change. Libs are notoriously stingy with charitable giving, but so quick to take our money for their causes.

A far left radical and an almost-conservative are never going to agree. With luck enough Californians will see the failure of your system and we will eventually join the rest of the country on a path to prosperity and taking back our freedom.

[.highnlite]

Your socialist system has failed everywhere it has been tried. And it is failing in California. Leave us alone. Be a do-gooder with your own money for a change. Libs are notoriously stingy with charitable giving, but so quick to take our money for their causes.

A far left radical and an almost-conservative are never going to agree. With luck enough Californians will see the failure of your system and we will eventually join the rest of the country on a path to prosperity and taking back our freedom.

Humor? I am your typical rancher/farmer/equipment operator, I drive 4x4's and carry guns, and pack mules into the hills to hunt. Hardly the traits of a far left radical, closer to that of an almost conservative, but conservative seems to be a euphemism for "driven by prejudices rather than data"

Note the Socialist nations that do better than the US. Note where the US ranks, would you like more proof socialism works and works well? We could go all night.

CIA - The World Factbook -- Country Comparison :: Life expectancy ...
Life expectancy at birth is also a measure of overall quality of life in a country and summarizes the mortality at all ages.

1 Monaco
89.78
2010 est.
2 Macau
84.38
2010 est.
3 San Marino
82.95
2010 est.
4 Andorra
82.36
2010 est.
5 Japan
82.17
2010 est.
6 Guernsey
82.08
2010 est.
7 Singapore
82.06
2010 est.
8 Hong Kong
81.96
2010 est.
9 Australia
81.72
2010 est.
10 Canada
81.29
2010 est.
11 Jersey
81.28
2010 est.
12 France
81.09
2010 est.
13 Spain
81.07
2010 est.
14 Sweden
80.97
2010 est.
15 Switzerland
80.97
2010 est.
16 Israel
80.86
2010 est.
17 Iceland
80.79
2010 est.
18 Anguilla
80.77
2010 est.
19 Bermuda
80.60
2010 est.
20 Cayman Islands
80.57
2010 est.
21 Isle of Man
80.53
2010 est.
22 New Zealand
80.48
2010 est.
23 Italy
80.33
2010 est.
24 Liechtenstein
80.19
2010 est.
25 Norway
80.08
2010 est.
26 Ireland
80.07
2010 est.
27 Jordan
79.92
2010 est.
28 United Kingdom
79.92
2010 est.
29 Greece
79.80
2010 est.
30 Saint Pierre and Miquelon
79.74
2010 est.
31 Austria
79.65
2010 est.
32 Malta
79.59
2010 est.
33 Faroe Islands
79.58
2010 est.
34 Netherlands
79.55
2010 est.
35 Luxembourg
79.48
2010 est.
36 Germany
79.41
2010 est.
37 Belgium
79.37
2010 est.
38 Virgin Islands
79.19
2010 est.
39 Finland
79.13
2010 est.
40 Wallis and Futuna
78.83
2010 est.
41 European Union
78.82
2010 est.
42 Korea, South
78.81
2010 est.
43 Puerto Rico
78.77
2010 est.
44 Bosnia and Herzegovina
78.66
2010 est.
45 Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha
78.60
2010 est.
46 Gibraltar
78.53
2010 est.
47 Denmark
78.47
2010 est.
48 Portugal
78.38
2010 est.
49 US

Here, top ten nations for quality of life, all socialist, and note how many do better than the US
2010 Quality of Life Index: 194 Countries Ranked and Rated to Reveal the Best Places to Live – International Living

1.France
2.Australia
3.Switzerland
4.Germany
5. New Zealand
6. Luxembourg
7. US
8. Belgium
9. Canada
10. Italy

[slo1318]

^^^Hardly socialist, more like twinges of socialism. Those are all small countries to. Everything you say is backed up by skewed "data".

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

You are right, heck, on a two thousand square foot house that would be $3,300. And with a building cost of $300.00 per square foot (low in many places) or, $600,000 bucks for that house, gee, another 33 hundred is pretty darned significant,

Not that the low information people are much concerned about data.

I know you really believe you are smarter than most, but the "data" would suggest otherwise. Ive noticed your data is very skewed to make your points.

$3300 on a 2000 sq ft starter house is very significant and can price a large percentage of people out of the market. Building cost of $300/ft is extremely high, even in California unless you are talking about high end construction. I know youre SLO county example included land. California is also the land where you can have $50k in permit and "impact" fees on top of construction. People in California would be amazed at what you can build a house for, minus all the permit/impact fees and now fire sprinklers. Its just another straw on the back.

[native56]

You try to sell socialism by telling Americans that people in socialist countries live longer. Not true. You are using statistics to lie. If you adjust American life expectancy for lifestyle (we have far more cars and car accidents for example) and compare the same races in both Europe and the US (adjust for our large minority population) Americans live the same length or longer than your socialist buddies.

And our health care system up to now is far superior to Europe's. But Obama is doing his best to drag us down to their level.

Here is a link that refutes some of your slanted "statistics":

Life Expectancy And Quality of Health Care » cb.blog

[.highnlite]

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[aircommuter]

The NFPA numbers say that there are 3000 home fire deaths annually, assuming that sprinklers could be 100% effective and in all houses which won't happen for at leat 100 years then we would save 3000 lives. Drunk drivers kill 42,600 annually, if we could reduce that by 10% we would be accomplishing over 25% percent more than the sprinklers will do in a hundred years assuming they are perfect. We cannot make a perfect environment, we can price ourselves out of a house. We can also make an easy job for some fire department personell who inspect sprinklers and retire at 50 for us to pay for. I know we do not want lawmakers to go against the money from the liquor lobbies, how foolish of me. It just doesn't make sense to try to work with the big numbers first. what was I thinking?