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Old 04-17-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Earth
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What's your source for that?
I read an L.A. Times article years ago which stated that.

As I don't subscribe to the LAT I can't access its archives online. I don't know if even subscribers can access the archives online for free.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:48 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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in 1846-48 Lee was pretty much a non entity. Just another Federal officer engaged in the Multi year long occupation of Mexico City.

He did not know San Diego Bay from the Straits of San Juan De Fuca.

Commodore Stockton on the other hand was anchored in San Diego Bay.

The Americans considered keeping Baja California (its seaports too were occupied by the Americans as were all of Mexico's major Pacific ports.

Santa Anna convinced the US to draw the boundary where it remained until the US figured out they could not run a southern rail route across the dry land they held, and had to buy, for a healthy sum a strip along southern Arizona so they could water the locomotives (The Gadsen Purchase).
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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There were less than 400K people in the entire state of which about 25% were in San Francisco itself. (SF's population boomed after the Civil War) and of which about 5% were in Sacramento itself.

So Cal was referred to as "the cow counties". It was rural and agricultural. Santa Barbara was the largest town in the south then.

As I mentioned on another thread - there is a Robert E. Lee connection to California, but before the Civil War. Then-Major Lee was responsible for the border being drawn where it is today rather than at Point Conception, because he thought San Diego Bay was a good natural harbor which could be used as a naval base.
...and so it was
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What a cool thread. Thanks all for the insight. I love the topic of CA history.

Rep points all around.(smiles).
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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What a cool thread. Thanks all for the insight. I love the topic of CA history.

Rep points all around.(smiles).
I agree, awesome thread indeed.
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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What a cool thread. Thanks all for the insight. I love the topic of CA history.

Rep points all around.(smiles).
I love CA history too, that's why I started this topic. I especially love finding out new things about California that I wasn't aware of, such how close secession came to SoCal.

Just think how different everything would be today if Buchanan had agreed to let California split in two!

California has a very interesting history in its own right!
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: San Angelo, Texas
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I love CA history too, that's why I started this topic. I especially love finding out new things about California that I wasn't aware of, such how close secession came to SoCal.

Just think how different everything would be today if Buchanan had agreed to let California split in two!

California has a very interesting history in its own right!
I agree. Good thread.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Ever been to east county san diego.... If you go thru lakeside you would swear you were in old dixie.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I love CA history too, that's why I started this topic. I especially love finding out new things about California that I wasn't aware of, such how close secession came to SoCal.

Just think how different everything would be today if Buchanan had agreed to let California split in two!

California has a very interesting history in its own right!
Add me to everyone else who agrees that this entire thread is very interesting and informative. California does indeed have an interesting history that, unfortunately, many Californians don't bother getting to know. Thanks so much for posting. Reps to you!
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