California wants to push more welfare recipients to work (insurance, to buy)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by malamute

They sure are. Welfare recipients get so much food stamps, WIC, free meals in school and headstart that they will put out baby formula for the stray cats or else they sell it on craigslist for some pretty nice cash.

Ever seen what happens to a lot of that free food given in the schools? Directly into the garbage.

I volunteer at local schools and the food waste is sad. Really sad.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

California has 12% of the US population, but 33% of persons receving public assistance, ie, welfare, of one kind or another.

Originally Posted by serialdriller

You are right, no kids should go hungry...... Their parents should get a job and start working so they can put food on the table, or stop making kids they can't afford to feed!!!

... and still the conservative minds rant that people out of work should go get jobs that don't exist ... I agree ... it would be a nice trick. Meanwhile, starve their kids, that'll help society and the kids both, while teaching the lazy parents a lesson I guess?

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by 5thgenSF

you aren't making sense. it all comes off the ebt card so there IS no change. what change?!

True, but they can get cash back nowadays.

"In addition, recipients are able to make cash purchases and receive cash back through POS terminals at participating retailers."

Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT)

This cannot come from the food stamp funds, but welfare benefits, thing is they often run out of welfare benefits and have food stamp funds which put's them in a dilemma.

Not the only method of getting cash back, one time back in the 80's, me and a couple of friends were at a AM/PM Market on our bikes, some guy walked up to us and offered to sell us a 6 pack of Coke, I saw him just walk out of the store, like wtf. We declined and then he say's "how about I get some candy?" We just ignored it, then he proceeded to walk over to the gas pumps asking people if they were interested.

It was another method of getting cash for cigs or booze.

[rimmerama]

Originally Posted by user_id

The plan seems to involve greatly reducing benefits after 2-years in the program (currently its up to 4 years) and reducing benefits to children with ineligible parents....which seems code for "illegal parents".

The cuts seem too broad, though 2-years is good for most, some may need more time. Also, seems like the support should be bettered tied to actually making progress....

California pushing more welfare recipients to work - Yahoo! Finance

Too broad? We have 1/3 of all welfare recipients. We have to make changes. Quite frankly, the only welfare program I'm in favor of expanding would be a crapload of birth control and free abortions. Stop the cycle of poverty.

[Freedom by the way]

"California wants to push more welfare recipients to work."

And you see this as a problem?
I say, perhaps CA has finally woken up and smelled the empty vault.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by malamute

But where would they go? Not many states have as generous a welfare system as California which is why so many welfare types moved to California in the first place.

This is where things get creative! Where they go is up to them, maybe someplace where there is work they can do so they don't have to be on assistance or somewhere they have friends/family that can pool resources and get along without welfare or somewhere with a lower COL. I mean, if there was no welfare for anyone and folks can't afford to live where they do would people stay put? Generally not.

This is a good question but not really a concern. Decisions about state budgets and taxes and all that political stuff isn't supposed to be based on where someone will go, how fair or nice or mean it is, nothing emotional. It more "here is what our state has to offer"... and people can take it or leave it. That is how you do things right.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by serialdriller

You are right, no kids should go hungry...... Their parents should get a job and start working so they can put food on the table, or stop making kids they can't afford to feed!!!

If you're not bright enough to figure this out then TAKE BIRTH CONTROL MEASURES VERY SERIOUSLY!

Or take that pent up energy and use it to advance yourself in life to a place and time where you can comfortably have kids if that is really what your aiming for in this life

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Ceece

This is where things get creative! Where they go is up to them, maybe someplace where there is work they can do so they don't have to be on assistance or somewhere they have friends/family that can pool resources and get along without welfare or somewhere with a lower COL. I mean, if there was no welfare for anyone and folks can't afford to live where they do would people stay put? Generally not.

This is a good question but not really a concern. Decisions about state budgets and taxes and all that political stuff isn't supposed to be based on where someone will go, how fair or nice or mean it is, nothing emotional. It more "here is what our state has to offer"... and people can take it or leave it. That is how you do things right.

Right On! The policies of CA have hurt the state and enabled dependence. If I were a lazy non ambitous person who knew that I was not going to be assisted for that behavior...I would certainly not bring a kid or kids into that situation. The cycle has to stop and I am glad to see the state waking up!

[5thgenSF]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Sure, then the unemployment rate will rise to over 20%, an extra dollar will be added for each gallon of gasoline sold, and the statewide sales tax will be raised to double digits. But the left does not think about such things, do they? After all, have to keep those welfare checks going to the drones that refuse to work, dont we? Some "solution", typical response from the radical far left, more socialism is what we need, the same kind that has driven the state to the brink of disaster.

so if all these companies have packed up and moved their jobs to another state, please let us know where that is so we can GO TOO.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by rimmerama

Too broad? We have 1/3 of all welfare recipients. We have to make changes.

Yes they are too broad in that many people that need (and are making good use) of the support will get cut off as well.

The primary reason that California has a higher number of welfare recipients is due to aid to children. States with large urbanized areas always have more welfare though....