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Old 03-12-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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It used to be. Before 1995, California was easily among the top 5 of all dangerous states.

California Crime Rates 1960 - 2013

Up until recently, CA's crime rate was way higher than U.S. ave. every single year.

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2013

Check out the most deadly murderous years of California's past - 1979, 1980, 1981, 1992, 1993. That was back when serial killers used to roam the streets of California searching for victims such as William Bonin, Randy Kraft, Sunset Strip Killers, Rodney Alcala, Lawrence Bittaker. Kidnappings and abductions happened frequently often ending with tragic results.

What's the deal with California in the 70s-early 80s being such a hotspot for infamous serial killers? : serialkillers

And some of California's prisons are among the most notorious of anywhere such as San Quentin, Folsom, Pelican Bay housing the worst of the worst.

San Quentin State Prison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now I gotta admit California is a lot safer than it used to be but back when CA was at it's worst...it was BAD.....





What do you think?
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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Obviously the Assault Weapon ban helped us.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Prop 47, no wonder Calif. is the most dangerious state. What did you expect?
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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What do you think?
From your posting history, I think you are obsessed with crime.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Actually, this is fascinating to me - that the crime rate has fallen back to the level from the 1960's. I like that the chart is the murder rate per 100,000, which would be unbiased info, seems to me.
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Old 03-13-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Where I live, in Ventura County, we have some of the safest cities in the nation. Simi Valley, Thousand Oaks, even Oxnard is in the top 25 cities of its size for safest cities in the nation. Maybe in the past parts of California were bad, but even in Los Angeles we visit often and always feel safe. Sure we are not out visiting Skid Row or Compton, although I have heard that even in Compton things are much better than in years past.
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Old 03-13-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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Where I live, in Ventura County, we have some of the safest cities in the nation. Simi Valley, Thousand Oaks, even Oxnard is in the top 25 cities of its size for safest cities in the nation. Maybe in the past parts of California were bad, but even in Los Angeles we visit often and always feel safe. Sure we are not out visiting Skid Row or Compton, although I have heard that even in Compton things are much better than in years past.

Even when California was bulging at the seams with crime, Ventura County was considered the safest....

Ventura County Boasts Lowest Crime in West : Safety: The 1989 rate of 3,814 crimes per 100,000 people compares to 7,424 in L.A. County, the FBI says. Officials credit tough courts and citizen involvement. - latimes

"August 06, 1990

Ventura County's crime rate is the lowest in the western United States for counties with at least one city of 50,000 or more residents, according to FBI statistics released Sunday.

While crime rates for the nation and California increased from 1988 to 1989, FBI figures show that the crime rate in Ventura County decreased.

Ventura County had 3,814 crimes per 100,000 people in 1989, compared to a rate of 3,876 in 1988.

The 1989 rate for the United States was 5,741 crimes per 100,000 residents, an increase from 5,664 the previous year. California had a rate of 6,763 in 1989 and 6,636 in 1988.

Neighboring counties in California also showed higher rates than Ventura County during the last year. Los Angeles County had a rate of 7,424 crimes per 100,000 people. San Diego County had a rate of 7,362, and Orange County's rate was 5,939. Santa Barbara had a rate of 5,099.

In Ventura County, murders were down from 28 in 1988 to 20 in 1989. Rapes, assaults and larceny also declined slightly. Robberies, burglaries and motor vehicle thefts increased.

The report said Ventura County is the safest county west of Bismarck, N.D., among counties with at least one city or urban area of 50,000 or more people. There are more than 30 other counties in that category with lower crime rates than Ventura County's, all east of Bismarck.

Police officials attributed Ventura County's low crime rate to a variety of factors, including the absence of large pockets of poverty, tougher sentencing of criminals, and a greater willingness among citizens to report crimes."
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I think you don't know what you are talking about. You can't conflate all sorts of statistics and then on top of it make false claims. If you want to discuss this, make a rational assertion then back it up with relevant data.

Let me sort through some of this:

You said: " up until recently, CA's crime rate was way higher than U.S. ave. every single year" That's not true and not supported by any evidence you provided. And, what you FAIL to mention is that between 2006 and 2012, the drop in violent crime in California exceeded that of the rest of the US Also, in 2008, California was ranked 26th in the US for all crime - not bad for a large, diverse state http://sentencingproject.org/doc/pub...Less_Crime.pdf

Crime in California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let me offer an example of how silly it is to make claims about a state being particularly safe or unsafe based solely upon data: Nevada has been ranked in the top 3 states for the highest rate of violent crimes pretty consistently for the past 20 years, but I doubt if you feel unsafe visiting Reno or Las Vegas, and I lived in Nevada for over a decade and didn't spend any time dodging bullets or defending myself lol Nevada ranked 2nd in nation for violent crimes - FOX5 Vegas - KVVU

You claimed that: "In the 70s and 80s were a time when serial killers used to roam the streets of California" wow, just wow. You are talking about what, 8 or 9 people over a period of 20 years and claiming it has some statistical significance?

And then you put in a Graphic that has nothing to do with any of your assertions but relates to the homicide rate. Well, the devil's in the details -homicides are troublesome when it comes to drawing an inference between them and the overall crime rate. The reason is that a very large number of homicide victims know or are related to their killer. In street violence the victim is more often than not a rival gang member, not an ice cream truck driver. Other violent crime, i.e. armed robbery, kidnapping, arson tell you far more about the level of crime in a given area.

I think you are obsessed with crime and really want to talk about it, and that is fine. But please don't throw a bunch of irrelevant data at the wall and hope something sticks. If you want to revise your initial post and make a rational claim that we can discuss here- then please, go for it.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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A lot of people kept saying California was going to turn into another violent Mexico due to Hispanics being the majority now. I guess it is not happening but I am sure those haters will come up with something new to talk sh*t about California.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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Is north or south California more safe than the other? Or is that too vague a question?
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