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Old 07-02-2020, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So out of our two major metros, which is more affected by homelessness LA or SF? Is one city worse while the other metro worse? I think these two places are most adversely affected in the country. I don't mean they are the worst places to live. I just think their standing and QOL are held back more.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:01 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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You apparently haven’t been to Seattle, Honolulu, San Diego, Washington D.C., Portland ...
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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They are not as bad as those two. I mean c'mon skid row?
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:12 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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They are not as bad as those two. I mean c'mon skid row?
Sorry, but you have some learning to do it seems.

NYC has the nation’s highest number of homeless ... but most are sheltered.

LA is #2, and has the highest unsheltered homeless population.

Seattle is number 3 in total - and in unsheltered.

San Jose is #4

San Diego is #5

6th place is a virtual tie between: San Francisco; Oakland; Santa Anna / Orange County

Quite closely followed by Phoenix AZ, and Washington D.C.

Then Honolulu also ranks in the top tier of winners.

When you factor by ‘per capita’ certain of those places really jump out at you. Seattle and Honolulu are dismal.

Skid Row in LA, by the way, is home to only less than 1/5th of LA’s homeless population.

I have volunteered for over 30 years with a veteran’s homeless service organization that has had chapters in numerous cities. I lived in San Francisco / Bay Area many years on and off since late 1960’s. Live in San Diego now (in second highest district for homeless population there). Spend summers north of Seattle and have worked with the local vet’s group who manage transitional support housing in the Seattle / Puget Sound region.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Homeless are like sacred cows in Los Angeles, they can't do anything wrong. They are a protected class. They can do anything they damn well please.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Sorry, but you have some learning to do it seems.

NYC has the nation’s highest number of homeless ... but most are sheltered.

LA is #2, and has the highest unsheltered homeless population.

Seattle is number 3 in total - and in unsheltered.

San Jose is #4

San Diego is #5

6th place is a virtual tie between: San Francisco; Oakland; Santa Anna / Orange County

Quite closely followed by Phoenix AZ, and Washington D.C.

Then Honolulu also ranks in the top tier of winners.

When you factor by ‘per capita’ certain of those places really jump out at you. Seattle and Honolulu are dismal.

Skid Row in LA, by the way, is home to only less than 1/5th of LA’s homeless population.

I have volunteered for over 30 years with a veteran’s homeless service organization that has had chapters in numerous cities. I lived in San Francisco / Bay Area many years on and off since late 1960’s. Live in San Diego now (in second highest district for homeless population there). Spend summers north of Seattle and have worked with the local vet’s group who manage transitional support housing in the Seattle / Puget Sound region.
So the answer is LA. That’s all you had to say instead of your typical condescending lecture
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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I'll bet LA is das kapital of unprovoked, random deadly attacks upon regular working stiffs by mentally deranged and/or drug-crazed homeless beasts.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:09 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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So the answer is LA. That’s all you had to say instead of your typical condescending lecture
What's condescending about a post from someone who's actually worked with the homeless in multiple cities?
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I'll bet LA is das kapital of unprovoked, random deadly attacks upon regular working stiffs by mentally deranged and/or drug-crazed homeless beasts.
I don’t know where has the most “random deadly attacks upon regular working stiffs by mentally deranged and/or drug-crazed homeless beasts”. But I do know that the incidence of such is much lower than the reverse: random deadly attacks upon homeless made by non-homeless.

In LA:
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In the past three years, more homeless have been murdered in Los Angeles than ever before, pushing the West Coast’s housing crisis in a new, sinister direction.

Even as the overall number of homicides across the country has decreased in recent years, in Los Angeles — home to Skid Row and other large-scale homeless encampments — murder rates for those living on the streets rose steadily from 2016 to this year.

While only 1 percent of the city’s sprawling population live on the streets or in shelters, homeless people made up around 17 percent of all homicides this year in Los Angeles, according to the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD)’s report profiled in NPR.

... 42 homeless people were murdered in 2019 — an increase from the previous two years. According to the National Coalition for the Homeless, California also saw the most crimes against homeless people in 2016 and 2017. https://thehill.com/changing-america...or-homeless-in
That number includes homeless murdering homeless. However, thrill crimes of violence against the homeless include over 500 murders nationally since 2011. LA and the west coast lead the nation in these attacks. Here is a report covering “Bias-motivated violence against people experiencing homelessness in 2016-2017”:
https://nationalhomeless.org/wp-cont...l_for-web2.pdf

Gather all stats available covering random murders committed by homeless persons against working stiffs and you will not find anywhere near equivalency. I’ve looked.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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So the answer is LA. That’s all you had to say instead of your typical condescending lecture
My “lecture” was informative, eh? And you don’t like informative.

Did the inclusion of Phoenix trigger you Finper?
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