Why do people in California take so much longer to recover from Covid even though we were hit early on? (Santa Clara: 2014, house)

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

See post #10. All of this is an estimate, and not a very accurate one at that.

Many are not 100% accurate and the hospitals and testing sites do not always get every day's info out that day. However overall they show a common rate, ect., so while none are correct, the numbers are reasonably accurate when compared to each other.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by joosoon

I agree this is just sloppy reporting but if the state is using these figures to dictate policy, it's one worth addressing. To make matters worse (maybe), on another thread I mentioned knowing someone who got a false positive. That test was followed up by two more which was what determined the mistake. As far as I know, the county doesn't correct that number and those three tests (actually six because of a spouse) are all lumped into one figure. From all that, we also learned about this. I'm now a lot more skeptical of testing results made from these pooled results. From what I understand they only retest individual samples if the pool has a positive which is problematic on several levels.

This has been happening since the beginning of this whole thing. Not only that but as I said in another thread, COVID-19 is not isolated in any of these tests. So essentially anyone coming up positive means they have a coronavirus (common cold). I've heard of numerous false positives, including people scheduling tests but not going, yet getting a notice they're positive.

Hell in fantasy football one of the top receivers tested positive but took another test right after and tested negative (Theilen still missed the game), as a random example of just how random these tests seem to be.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

This has been happening since the beginning of this whole thing. Not only that but as I said in another thread, COVID-19 is not isolated in any of these tests. So essentially anyone coming up positive means they have a coronavirus (common cold).

It must depend on the type of COVID test that people get, molecular test or antigen test.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...testing-basics

https://www.fda.gov/health-professio...nostic-testing

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

It must depend on the type of COVID test that people get, molecular test or antigen test.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...testing-basics

https://www.fda.gov/health-professio...nostic-testing

Interesting points and good to show the test numbers in general are not fully accurate.

[Bert_from_back_East]

As another poster already mentioned, most people who live in California are racial and ethnic minorities. Aside from East Asians, most racial and ethnic minorities, from both statewide and national perspectives, have poorer health outcomes than non-Hispanic white Americans. Among black and Hispanic Americans in particular, poor health outcomes directly result from:

• Large, multi-generational households
• Lower rates of commercial health insurance coverage
• High-fat, low-roughage diets that result in nutritional deficiencies and nutrition-related health conditions (e.g., diabetes, hypercholesterolemia, hypertension, etc.)
• Lower rates of breastfeeding
• Labor-intensive work that often results in high exposure to toxic chemicals
• A greater reliance on public transportation and public places for essential services (e.g., libraries for computer usage), which translates to greater exposure to COVID-19 and other illnesses
• A general culture of disobedience and disregard for laws, policies and regulations

In California, racial and ethnic minorities are exposed to significantly worse air quality than minorities located in less urbanized, lower-population states (e.g., South Dakota), which can foster a host of upper-respiratory issues, especially as a person ages. For many years, living in Los Angeles County was equivalent to smoking one full pack of cigarettes per day.

Regarding Hispanics in particular, many Hispanic people who live in California are not lawfully present in the United States, so they avoid seeking medical care, among other essential services, in fear of being arrested and deported. That's not to mention that, despite the fact Spanish is a threshold language in most California counties, many legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants are illiterate in their native language of Spanish, never mind English, so they are unable to read resource materials from local social services agencies that include information about how to access medical care and other forms of assistance when necessary.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East

As another poster already mentioned, most people who live in California are racial and ethnic minorities.

White alone, 71.9%, Black or African American alone, 6.5%, Asian alone, 15.5, American Indian and Alaska Native alone, 1.6%....

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/CA

Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East

Regarding Hispanics in particular, many Hispanic people who live in California are not lawfully present in the United States...

Link?

More than half (52%) of California’s immigrants are naturalized US citizens, and another 25% have some other legal status (including green cards and visas). According to the Center for Migration Studies, only about 23% of immigrants in California are undocumented.

https://www.ppic.org/publication/imm...in-california/

[Huckleberry3911948]

It’s a good question I thought we were health conscious

[ThinkingOutsideTheBox]

Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East

As another poster already mentioned, most people who live in California are racial and ethnic minorities. Aside from East Asians, most racial and ethnic minorities, from both statewide and national perspectives, have poorer health outcomes than non-Hispanic white Americans. Among black and Hispanic Americans in particular, poor health outcomes directly result from:

• Large, multi-generational households
• Lower rates of commercial health insurance coverage
• High-fat, low-roughage diets that result in nutritional deficiencies and nutrition-related health conditions (e.g., diabetes, hypercholesterolemia, hypertension, etc.)
• Lower rates of breastfeeding
• Labor-intensive work that often results in high exposure to toxic chemicals
• A greater reliance on public transportation and public places for essential services (e.g., libraries for computer usage), which translates to greater exposure to COVID-19 and other illnesses
• A general culture of disobedience and disregard for laws, policies and regulations

In California, racial and ethnic minorities are exposed to significantly worse air quality than minorities located in less urbanized, lower-population states (e.g., South Dakota), which can foster a host of upper-respiratory issues, especially as a person ages. For many years, living in Los Angeles County was equivalent to smoking one full pack of cigarettes per day.

Regarding Hispanics in particular, many Hispanic people who live in California are not lawfully present in the United States, so they avoid seeking medical care, among other essential services, in fear of being arrested and deported. That's not to mention that, despite the fact Spanish is a threshold language in most California counties, many legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants are illiterate in their native language of Spanish, never mind English, so they are unable to read resource materials from local social services agencies that include information about how to access medical care and other forms of assistance when necessary.

It has NOTHING to do with racial background and I happen to be a person of color. It's all about classifying people as still infected months after they cleared the infection. There is NO WAY that 97 percent of the people in Santa Clara County who have been infected with Covid are still actually infected. They just fail to move people to the "recovered" category for political purposes. And those lily white Dakota states and Iowa actually have a higher per capita Covid infection rate than California: they just choose to move them to "recovered" when they actually recover.



https://www.worldometers.info/corona...sa/california/
https://www.worldometers.info/corona.../north-dakota/

[saibot]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

White alone, 71.9%, Black or African American alone, 6.5%, Asian alone, 15.5, American Indian and Alaska Native alone, 1.6%....

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/CA

Where's Hispanic in your list? Oh, yeah, Hispanic isn't a race. This factoid completely misses that point.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by saibot

Where's Hispanic in your list? Oh, yeah, Hispanic isn't a race.

"My" list? Scroll down on the Census website.

Originally Posted by saibot

This factoid completely misses that point.

It was a response to the poster who said, "most people who live in California are racial and ethnic minorities."