A California lawmaker just proposed a four-day workweek (home, transfer)

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Between 15 dollar min wage and then this? No wonder fast food joints are switching to robotics.

Seriously and I called it. Well not just me, but many others. I left for Florida and when I came back, there were triple the self checkout machines at Target.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Between 15 dollar min wage and then this? No wonder fast food joints are switching to robotics.

Originally Posted by stablegenius

Seriously and I called it. Well not just me, but many others. I left for Florida and when I came back, there were triple the self checkout machines at Target.

You guys don’t seriously think rising minimum wages are behind AI / automation do you? Automation has been steadily advancing since the days of the Luddite weavers’ revolts of the early 1800s in England. No aspect of business is more concerning and frustrating to employers than - well - managing / paying for employees. Employees have always been the weakest link in any business chain. Every opportunity to reduce, replace, cheapen is studied and awaited with intense scrutiny.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

You guys don’t seriously think rising minimum wages are behind AI / automation do you? Automation has been steadily advancing since the days of the Luddite weavers’ revolts of the early 1800s in England. No aspect of business is more concerning and frustrating to employers than - well - managing / paying for employees. Employees have always been the weakest link in any business chain. Every opportunity to reduce, replace, cheapen is studied and awaited with intense scrutiny.

No the minimum wage is not entirely behind it, but if you are going to raise the price of live employees, it may have helped push up the timeline.

[Voebe]

It's a dumb headline. The crucial thing about a work-week is the hours, not the days.

I'll bet if you offered people four 9-hour days, a lot of people would go for it.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by Voebe

It's a dumb headline. The crucial thing about a work-week is the hours, not the days.

I'll bet if you offered people four 9-hour days, a lot of people would go for it.

I agree and it's not a bad idea. The problem with that is your productivity goes down quite a bit after 6 hours or so.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by stablegenius

I agree and it's not a bad idea. The problem with that is your productivity goes down quite a bit after 6 hours or so.

Increasing productivity is partly the impetus of the bill according to its authors and cosigners.

[citizensadvocate]

Interestingly I be curious how much chance does this have in terms of possibility to pass? Not a single state or local government let alone the feds could even mandated paid vacations or unconditional leave for any reason/rest despite(Like many other parts of the world) despite how many labor regulations are at the state and local levels.

The closest we get is some states like MA have blue laws which forbids employers from making employees work on Thanksgiving and Christmas Day.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Voebe

It's a dumb headline. The crucial thing about a work-week is the hours, not the days.

I'll bet if you offered people four 9-hour days, a lot of people would go for it.

Most management doesn't like this. They like butts in chairs or in the field and a four day week means fewer butts averaged over the week. Sometimes to the point they need to hire additional headcount.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by stablegenius

Seriously and I called it. Well not just me, but many others. I left for Florida and when I came back, there were triple the self checkout machines at Target.

You do realize, don't you, that the switch to self checkout, and the increase per store in self-checkout stations, is a nationwide trend?

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Most management doesn't like this. They like butts in chairs or in the field and a four day week means fewer butts averaged over the week. Sometimes to the point they need to hire additional headcount.

In some cases, yes. It's true. In our department, we had the option of working either a 4-day week (4 10's) or another way, what they referred to as a 9-9-8 with one day off every other week. In the event there was a holiday during that two-week pay period, everyone worked a regular 40-hr week.

The ONE thing the department stressed was that there was enough staff to handle the work. Making sure that area was covered, it worked out pretty well and no one felt the pinch of an absent co-worker. Maybe we were just over staffed instead of under staffed from the start.