Poizner: California must stem the flow of illegal immigrants (Sacramento: live in, move)

[californio sur]

As previously stated by another poster, Poizner is unlikely to beat Whitman due to the incredible amount of $ she has invested from her own fortune. Whitman's commercials out number Poizner's by at least 10 to 1. Whitman will buy the Republican nomination.

How Whitman actually does against Jerry Brown in the election is questionable since the out-going governor\ Schwarzenegger is Republican & has a very low approval rating. Brown will likely be California's next governor again even though he is 70 yrs old.

In the long run it really doesn't matter who becomes governor since the office is basically non-partisan.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by californio sur

In the long run it really doesn't matter who becomes governor since the office is basically non-partisan.

Not quite, Esse. Brown is in thrall to the labor unions to whom he sold the state the last time. That, anymore, is decidedly a partisan matter.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Not quite, Esse. Brown is in thrall to the labor unions to whom he sold the state the last time. That, anymore, is decidedly a partisan matter.

The unions will always be a force to reckon with. Arnold found out how powerful unions are in California [ie. nurses, police, fire, etc] right after he became governor. Democratic governors also have to deal with the power of unions. The mayor of Los Angeles, a Democrat, attacked the unions & promised that he will cut union jobs if necessary. Ultimately a governor must run the state and can not be too partisan.

[Rick Roma]

Originally Posted by californio sur

I am Latino\ Rican and agree that the borders must be shut. This is not an easy job since the border is over 1000 miles long. But I also know how latinos in general react to comments made by Republicans. If anything it creates a worse situation. In Los Angeles hispanics make up the majority. Add into the mix that the Catholic archbishop is radically pro-immigrant & the mayor & most of the city council are Mexican-American makes this a fatal mistake for any politician to speak out about. California is not the state to start an anti-immigrant movement if a politician wants to be in office. Poizner made a huge mistake.

Really? Last I heard California is a very large state. I wonder how people ouside of LA feel about the issue as the tab to support illegals runs into billions of their tax dollars?

[Rick Roma]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Republicans taking an anti-immigrant position in California do so at their own peril. Yesterday 1000's marched in downtown Los Angeles demanding citizenship. This issue tends to stir up Latinos regardless of legal status & is why Republicans don't do well in California, among many reasons.

Thousands Rally for Immigration Reform in Los Angeles (http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/politics/immigration-rally-20100327 - broken link)

Interesting. People who have violated the law are now demanding that they be excused and rewarded fo their acts. Criminals in prisons often riot to demand things. What's the difference?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by californio sur

The unions will always be a force to reckon with. Arnold found out how powerful unions are in California [ie. nurses, police, fire, etc] right after he became governor. Democratic governors also have to deal with the power of unions. The mayor of Los Angeles, a Democrat, attacked the unions & promised that he will cut union jobs if necessary. Ultimately a governor must run the state and can not be too partisan.

Someone should have told Gray Davis that before he joined Jerry Brown in selling out the state to the unions. Talk about coin-operated governors.

Antonio Ramón Villar, Jr, aka Anthony Villaraigosa, talks a fine tale but he's still a partisan hack. And so it goes!

Alas, my native state is evaporating before my eyes!

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by Rick Roma

Interesting. People who have violated the law are now demanding that they be excused and rewarded fo their acts. Criminals in prisons often riot to demand things. What's the difference?

I'm not defending nor condemning either side on the issue of immigration. My point is that those who demand all illegals be deported create a strong reaction since California has such a large Latino population. If Poizner were to win the Republican primary [which is unlikely] he would be wiped out in the election. It is just an issue that can not be calmly dealt with in California, good or bad.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Someone should have told Gray Davis that before he joined Jerry Brown in selling out the state to the unions. Talk about coin-operated governors.

Antonio Ramón Villar, Jr, aka Anthony Villaraigosa, talks a fine tale but he's still a partisan hack. And so it goes!

Alas, my native state is evaporating before my eyes!

Schwarzenegger basically caved in to the unions just like Davis. Unions in California have tremendous power & why the state is so heavily Democratic among other reasons.

[the one]

thanks for the laughs!!!

soviet union?

this is such a tired argument (illeglas=dems) that there is no use to even continue with BS or BKKev

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

It may not be anyones job pretty soon. The next project of the Obama administration is to grant amnesty and legalize the estimated 15-20 million illegal aliens. While many of the illegals are not very political, their ideology tends to be Marxist/Populist, and if they vote, they will likely vote 90% for far left Democrats. This is why the Democrats so desperately want to legalize them, it would insure them remaining in power for decades, somewhat similar to the long reign of the PRI in Mexico. Just imagine what the nation will be like if the illegals get the vote. Can you say Soviet Union?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Schwarzenegger basically caved in to the unions just like Davis. Unions in California have tremendous power & why the state is so heavily Democratic among other reasons.

And so broke as well! GAS is a Rino and actually, only LA and the Bay Area are democrat. The rest of the state is relatively moderate. But LA is predominently hispanic, the Bay Area's been brain-dead since the early 60s and the state's gone down-hill ever since!