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Old 02-28-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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Im posting this here because i posted this in the montreal thread.


Im an online poker player that relocated from the usa to canada. I went into canada close to 1/2 a year ago by flying in on a one way ticket. Presented bank statement to show i have enough funds in my american bank acct to support myself when they asked me what i do and how i will support myself. They allowed me and gave me 6 month b/c thats how i long i said i would stay up to max. I had said it might be 3 month to 6 month.


Im going back to the usa because of my 6 month limit. I will be coming back pretty soon into canada though. I was told by few ppl the 6 months doesn't mean 6 month in a calender year and if you stay in canada and leave before the date stamped on passport, even if you go back to the usa for few days and then come back to canada you get another 6 months. I was not aware of this few months ago until some ppl told me this recently.


Im taking a bus from canada to the usa and only bought a 1 way ticket. Did not buy a plane ticket b/c i waited too long and the rates for flying would be very high so i just bought a bus ticket. Also i bought one way ticket b/c i do not know the exact day im leaving the usa and coming back into canada. I know it will be one of certain days but not 100 percent so thats why i just bought 1 way ticket. Im planning to be back into canada within 10 days or so.


Someone in that thread said i might have issues with this by ice agents b/c i only bought 1 way ticket and i might get denied in into the usa border. Can someone tell me if this is true and have story about this? I never thought there would be an issue coming back to the usa... my only issue was getting into canada again. My other worry is of course in case i wouldn't be let into canada but i did not think me not getting into the usa would be an issue... since im american and live in the usa.


Is there a reason this would happen? I dont understand this. I do know that when i come back into canada, i will print my bank statement with the money in my funds to prove that i have enough money to stay in canada again for possibly up to 6 months.


However, would you say its better to just fly into canada like it did 1/2 a year ago as oppose to taking a bus? The only reason why i flew into canada my first time was b/c i heard its easier to cross the border than taking a bus why is why i did that.


I also like to mention that i have an apartment here that i already paid rent for so basically im paying for it even when im in the usa for that short time and coming back into it when i get back into canada.


I assume i shouldn't have any issues based on my situation?
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I can't find it on the Government site, but I will pretty much guarantee that it is six months in any 12 month period. Not six months per calendar year.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: CFL
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You are a US citizen returning home. There is no reason to deny you entry to the US. They won't care when you plan to return to Canada. That only applies to Canadian visitors to the US..
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Also don't forget about the 183 day rule with the Canada Revenue Agency. If you're in country for more than 183 days, you have to pay taxes. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/cntct/international-eng.html

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Old 03-01-2014, 05:18 AM
 
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In my experience the Canadian border guards get very anal when it comes to single males coming into Canada on a one way ticket with supposedly no intention of working and are just going to hang out for an indeterminate amount of time? if thats what you are doing its an endeavor that could end given a sourly hard ass border guard who gets it in his head you are coming to Canada to work illegally,Probably them checking the contents of your laptop will lead them to the conclusion gambling is your chosen profession, whether thats legal or not i have no idea,Do you actually tell them you will live off the travails of gambling while you are here?

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Old 03-01-2014, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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The rule is simple, a total of 183 days IN Canada, then at least 183 days OUT of Canada.

And that "six months in Canada " bit is NOT carved in stone...... It is a maximum period of time, at the discretion of the CBSA agent that you deal with at the Canadian port of entry. Your time in Canada can be reduced to as little as 30 days..........or you can be denied entry, period.

And yes, you have to pay taxes in Canada on income, from what ever source.

Jim b.

Toronto.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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And yes, you have to pay taxes in Canada on income, from what ever source.

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What if our op spent 6 months in Canada but didnt declare the fact that his income during that time was from online gambling
And if that was found out to be the case how would this affect his future entry into Canada?

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Old 03-01-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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What if our op spent 6 months in Canada but didnt declare the fact that his income during that
And if that was found out to be the case how would this affect his future entry into Canada?
Could have ill gotten illegal as well legal assets frozen/seized and do sometime in prison in both Canada and the U.S. and be permanently banned from Canada or a variation of all three it depends.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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What if our op spent 6 months in Canada but didnt declare the fact that his income during that time was from online gambling
And if that was found out to be the case how would this affect his future entry into Canada?
For all I know, he'd have to be quite the genius and have rather sizable winnings for the CRA to bother to go after a non-resident whose full-time job is gambling. But given the leeway that CBSA officers have, if that info showed up in the CBSA system, the OP could get some heat from a bored agent when he tried to cross back.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:06 PM
 
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In my experience the Canadian border guards get very anal when it comes to single males coming into Canada on a one way ticket with supposedly no intention of working and are just going to hang out for an indeterminate amount of time? if thats what you are doing its an endeavor that could end given a sourly hard ass border guard who gets it in his head you are coming to Canada to work illegally,Probably them checking the contents of your laptop will lead them to the conclusion gambling is your chosen profession, whether thats legal or not i have no idea,Do you actually tell them you will live off the travails of gambling while you are here?
I told them i played online poker when i flew into toronto airport when they asked me my purpose. They had zero issues with it. They had asked me if it was for some poker tournament at casino and i said no, its online poker. They asked why cant you do it in the usa... i said it was banned.


Then i had to talk to someone else and showed them my bank acct to show i have enough funds to stay in canada and then they give me the 6 month limit.
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