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Old 05-05-2008, 08:13 PM
 
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Having lived briefly in Guelph, Ont in the early 90's I know that gas has always been pricier then down here. However it's gotten so out of hand that it's now becoming a major campaign issue with McCain and Hillary both pledging to suspend fuel taxes during summer months. People are livid, absolutely livid about how expensive it's become. I know you guys are more socialist leaning then we are, i.e more willing to put up with crazy taxes and such but are you guys getting fed up as well? Thanks
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:52 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Gas in the US is still under priced.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Hollywood North
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Gas is over $5 a gallon where I live. People complain a bit here but not in the way that it seems in the U.S. I think all the fury in the U.S is a little out of wack. Rather than "gas holidays" politicians should try discourage reckless development to all these "bedroom communities" that are much more common down there. If people lived a little more sustainably then higher gas prices wouldn't be such an issue. Stop building "McMansions" 50 miles from work and driving an SUV to get there. I hope gas keeps going up.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:24 PM
 
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Gas is over $5 a gallon where I live. People complain a bit here but not in the way that it seems in the U.S. I think all the fury in the U.S is a little out of wack. Rather than "gas holidays" politicians should try discourage reckless development to all these "bedroom communities" that are much more common down there. If people lived a little more sustainably then higher gas prices wouldn't be such an issue. Stop building "McMansions" 50 miles from work and driving an SUV to get there. I hope gas keeps going up.

Wow, what an intolerant post. For a Canadian, you're very anti- choice.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What irks me is that we produce more oil than we can use, but we are now the top exporter of oil to the US. You get 1,920,000 barrels of Canadian oil per day to burn in your SUVs.
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:14 PM
 
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What is with this anti SUV rhetoric? I feel like I've entered a bizarre cult that has SUV's as their mortal enemies. Weird.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Most people in canada dont understand why americans are so angry about gas prices. For every $1 we pay for gas, you pay $0.75. Beyond that in europe, they pay $1.75 for every $1 we pay here in canada (estimates). Canadians are frustrated, yes, but we understand that the price of oil is up and that we really should cut back on our consumption to help the environment. Frankly, most canadians see the US demands for lower gas prices as very selfish.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Hollywood North
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Wow, what an intolerant post. For a Canadian, you're very anti- choice.
I am not at all "anti choice". If people want to continue to live the lifestyle I described than they are going to have to pay for it. The free ride is over. Suck it up.
BTW, I am anything but intolerant. I do have a hard time with a nation thinking they have some right to cheap gasoline though.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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for the record...

US federal gas tax is 18.4 cents a gallon.
the lowest state gas tax is in alaska at 8 cents; for a total of 26.4
the highest is in Hawaii at 35.1 cents; for a total of 53.5

for the sake of argument, I will use the highest taxes for this example - 53.5

Canadian federal gas tax is 10 cents a liter.
the lowest provincial gas tax is in alberta at 9 cents a liter, plus a 5% GST. Using $1 a liter (currently the price of gas is closer to 1.20, but for argument sake) that means a total of 24 cents a liter.
the highest provincial gas tax is in BC, in Vancouver, which has a city levy. at $1 a liter, plus the 20.5 cents, for a total of 39.5 cents

now remember... there are 4 liters in a gallon.

therefore the US lowest of 26.4, and the US highest of 53.5 compare to Canada's lowest of 96 and highest of 158

so you can see how canadians can feel that many americans are just compaining too much.

I also note that "In 2008, taxes in Canada represented on average 35% of the pump price versus 20% in the U.S." and I note that Canada has (by FAR) among the lowest gas taxes in the first world. The UK, for example, has a gas tax of about $4 a gallon, and that's before the sales tax is added on.


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so for comparison sake (in gallons, and US dollars)
US gas tax - $0.25-$0.50
Canada - $1.00-$1.50
Europe - apx $4.00
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Western Canada
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Yup, not a single Canadian drives an SUV or lives in the suburbs or a bedroom community. We all bicycle to work on unicycles, leaving our hands free to polish our halos...except for those damned hypocrites. And every single Canadian is so absolutely outraged by our very own oil sands development (the single MOST environmentally destructive oil development in Canadian history) that we're rioting in the streets and burning cars in protest!!! Anything for an anti-American jab, even if it's hypocritical and self-righteous, right?
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